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# 1 DHC in PvP
07-11-2013, 12:28 PM
DHC is the most OP weapon ever. They can put out insane dps number that just kills PvP gameplay. Many can kill a player with their DHC within 2-3 seconds, far faster than any other weapons in STO.

By nerfing DHCs, more PvEers will try out PvP and save this declining community.

Will you ask Cryptic to nerf DHC and what would be your proposed nerf(s)?
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# 2
07-11-2013, 12:44 PM
Tried that. Didn't work. Nerfing escort tanking would be better anyway.
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# 3
07-11-2013, 12:46 PM
Nerf DHC? OMG...and now how can I vaporize the KDF bugs?
Please remember...they're OP only at close range and they've a narrowed firing arc...
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# 4
07-11-2013, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtheyak View Post
Tried that. Didn't work. Nerfing escort tanking would be better anyway.
This! I completely agree!
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# 5
07-11-2013, 01:11 PM
No.

Just no.

DHCs are not OP, Dual Cannons and DHCs have identical DPS, the only different is that DHCs hit harder and slower.

Here's an idea: use DHCs in PvP with no buffs, no tac team and no CRF or CSV. Then try it with those things. then try it with a decent tac build (which I and other PBC Coaches would be happy to offer) and notice the difference in all of them.

They do not need nerfing in any way. They are fine as-is.

Comments like these are one of the reasons PvP Boot Camp was invented. We share our knowledge with players that want to break into PvP without being daunted by veteran players. We do this for free. In addition you get an shiny title and a free respec token.

Rather than posting a new thread asking the devs to hit everything with a nerfhammer. Place your post in the thread that signs you up for PvP Boot Camp so you can learn builds, spec better and make friends.

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# 6
07-11-2013, 01:16 PM
buffing all non dhcs would be the best way to go about things. DHCs are alone at the top in effectiveness, but that does not mean they are op, they work as well as they need to for anyone to ever die ever. beam arrays and single cannons need that same front loaded low volley firing cycle, it would be a massive buff to just non escorts that is sorely needed.

or, nerf DHCs. but also remove the distribute from TT. ether change would have nearly the same effect
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# 7
07-11-2013, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by zensoji1 View Post
No.

Just no.

DHCs are not OP, Dual Cannons and DHCs have identical DPS, the only different is that DHCs hit harder and slower.

Here's an idea: use DHCs in PvP with no buffs, no tac team and no CRF or CSV. Then try it with those things. then try it with a decent tac build (which I and other PBC Coaches would be happy to offer) and notice the difference in all of them.

They do not need nerfing in any way. They are fine as-is.

Comments like these are one of the reasons PvP Boot Camp was invented. We share our knowledge with players that want to break into PvP without being daunted by veteran players. We do this for free. In addition you get an shiny title and a free respec token.

Rather than posting a new thread asking the devs to hit everything with a nerfhammer. Place your post in the thread that signs you up for PvP Boot Camp so you can learn builds, spec better and make friends.


Boot camp coach, but really you should know that DHC does infact hit harder then DC its been proven over and over, dps value on the tooltips are inaccurate.
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# 8
07-11-2013, 01:47 PM
He is just saying this because everyone else agrees besides him and a few others that Nukara mines are OP and need nerfs. You can actually move and use boff abilities while under DHC fire, they aren't anywhere near OP compared to web mines, and lots of people can make builds that can tank a tac DHC ship indefinetley.
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# 9
07-11-2013, 01:49 PM
No. hey hit harder and slower, and dual cannons hit faster and weaker. The reason why we coaches advocate it is not due to inaccurate tooltips, its because DHCs + CRF = more damage than a DC can achieve.

They are generally better weapons.

But what I said was true as well, unbuffed, they hit for the same DPS but as I said, DHCs are generally better.

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# 10
07-11-2013, 02:47 PM
DHCs on their own are pretty decent, but not OMGWOWAMAZING.

They really shine when you start stacking APA, APO, CRF, TacFleet, etc etc.
The first we heard of getting new PvP maps "soon" was in August of 2010. We're consistently told something will be coming with the "next" update. Absolutely nothing has come to PvP since launch.

I think it's finally time Cryptic stopped stringing us along, don't you?
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