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# 101
07-15-2013, 02:22 PM
I'm pretty sure its in addition... it'd make no sense otherwise (yeah..so aegis engine 2pc would let it get 35 bonus def) all in all, I'm seeing the risian corvette as a ship that will go toe to toe versus a bug without looking like a sacrificial goat by sheer speed tankiness


..and yes, I plan to epte, aux2sif and use any other speed boost just see how close I can get to evasive speed constantly - not for pvp most likely...but just for cruising the space around Qo'nos


In the red hull design of course as 'red wunz goez fasta!'
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# 102
07-15-2013, 03:05 PM
I was wondering, because of the changes to EM with +Def being based on speed - how APO's +Def works - and just wondering if they were looking at changing how the Escort's +Def worked in a similar fashion...starting with the Corvette.

Along the lines of whether they were potentially looking at adjusting the Escort's +10% into being +10% based on speed...with the Corvette and its scaling +15% being the testbed for that kind of change.
Maal, Klingon, Mogh - Vegar, Orion, Marauder - R'ebel, Romulan, Haakona
Willard the Rat, Reman, F.T'varo - Rave, J.Trill, Kar'Fi - Mysk, Gorn, Varanus
Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba - Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethean, M.Qin
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# 103
07-16-2013, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
I was wondering, because of the changes to EM with +Def being based on speed - how APO's +Def works - and just wondering if they were looking at changing how the Escort's +Def worked in a similar fashion...starting with the Corvette.

Along the lines of whether they were potentially looking at adjusting the Escort's +10% into being +10% based on speed...with the Corvette and its scaling +15% being the testbed for that kind of change.

I doubt it ..can you imagine the uproar that would happen if the best selling class of ships got a nerf? Cryptics not stupid, they would never kill the golden goose as it'd sound like escorteers were 'losing' it - it'd be on the same magnitude as if they woke up one morning to find dhcs had been nerfed :p

I was surprised though to find out kdf bops do not get the bonus defence yet romulan bops have it...
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# 104
07-16-2013, 05:09 AM
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I doubt it ..can you imagine the uproar that would happen if the best selling class of ships got a nerf? Cryptics not stupid, they would never kill the golden goose as it'd sound like escorteers were 'losing' it - it'd be on the same magnitude as if they woke up one morning to find dhcs had been nerfed :p
Scaling +Def wouldn't be in the same ballpark as what Geko wanted to do with DHCs...and the uproar that ensued.

Besides, they already changed EM to work in that fashion...

...it would be a logical step for them to take. Much of +Def works that way. The scaling +45% based on speed up to 24 impulse, the +10% Escort only if moving, the 2pc Aegis +5% only if moving, the APO +Def is based on that scaling +45% (a .45/.55 modifier applied to the tooltip bonus dependent on speed/Escort)...etc, etc, etc.

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I was surprised though to find out kdf bops do not get the bonus defence yet romulan bops have it...
KDF BoPs do.

Rom Warbirds don't.
Maal, Klingon, Mogh - Vegar, Orion, Marauder - R'ebel, Romulan, Haakona
Willard the Rat, Reman, F.T'varo - Rave, J.Trill, Kar'Fi - Mysk, Gorn, Varanus
Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba - Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethean, M.Qin
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# 105
07-20-2013, 11:51 PM
So based on conversations on the forums and in chat...

The Risian Trollvette w/ Alien Sci

Traits - Accurate, Astrophysicist, Conservation of Energy, Efficient, Elusive, Helmsman, Photonic Capacitor, Techie, Warp Theorist

Reputation
New Rom - Precision, Sensor Targeting Assault, Quantum Singularity Manipulation
Nukara - Fortified Hull, Auxiliary Power Configuration - Offense, Refracting Tetryon Cascade
Omega - Omega Weapon Training, Omega Graviton Amplifier

TT1, TS2, APO1, APO3
THY1, DPA1

EPtE1, EPtS2, EWP1
TSS1, HE2
PH1


DOFFs - 3x DCE (EPtX), WCE(Cleanse), MAS(EWP)

Deflector - Borg Mk XII
Impulse - Borg Mk XII
Warp - Elite Fleet Reinforced Warp Core Mk XII [EPS][E->S][SCap][AMP][SSS]
Shields - Omega Mk XII

Weapons
Fore - Chron DBA, 3x Chroniton Torpedo Mk XII [Acc]x3
Aft - Temporal Device, Chroniton Mine Mk XII [CrtH]x3, Nukara Web Mine

Consoles
Tac - Wake, GPG, Jumper, Imp Cap Cell
Eng - Tachyo, E-RCS Mk XII [+AllRes], E-Neut Mk XII [+Turn]
Sci - 2x Romulan Grav Gen Mk XII [-Th][HuH], Romulan Grav Gen Mk XII [-Th][ShH]

Devices - SFM, RMC

edit: Was half asleep when posting this joke build...meh, thanks to illcadia for pointing out the glaring issue of the LCmdr Tac that doesn't exist.
Maal, Klingon, Mogh - Vegar, Orion, Marauder - R'ebel, Romulan, Haakona
Willard the Rat, Reman, F.T'varo - Rave, J.Trill, Kar'Fi - Mysk, Gorn, Varanus
Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba - Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethean, M.Qin

Last edited by virusdancer; 07-21-2013 at 02:17 PM.
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# 106
07-21-2013, 02:28 AM
Really looking forward to mine
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# 107
07-21-2013, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
A question/clarification in regard to the Corvette that I have...

The up to 15% +Def based on speed - is that a replacement or in addition to the +10% +Def for being an Escort?
Replacement.
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# 108
07-21-2013, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by poeddude View Post
Replacement.
Thank you for the clarification...I've been dragging my feet on it. I'm glad that I saw the post from Friday by Bran saying it had been extended through the 4th (since the game shows it running through the 15th)...I've got to stop dragging my feet, and I can still get it done. Some folks are going to be...perturbed though.
Maal, Klingon, Mogh - Vegar, Orion, Marauder - R'ebel, Romulan, Haakona
Willard the Rat, Reman, F.T'varo - Rave, J.Trill, Kar'Fi - Mysk, Gorn, Varanus
Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba - Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethean, M.Qin
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# 109
07-21-2013, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
So based on conversations on the forums and in chat...

The Risian Trollvette w/ Alien Sci

Traits - Accurate, Astrophysicist, Conservation of Energy, Efficient, Elusive, Helmsman, Photonic Capacitor, Techie, Warp Theorist

Reputation
New Rom - Precision, Sensor Targeting Assault, Quantum Singularity Manipulation
Nukara - Fortified Hull, Auxiliary Power Configuration - Offense, Refracting Tetryon Cascade
Omega - Omega Weapon Training, Omega Graviton Amplifier

TT1, TS2, APO1, DPB3
THY1, DPA1, APO1

EPtE1, EPtS2, EWP1
TSS1, HE2
PH1


DOFFs - 3x DCE (EPtX), WCE(Cleanse), MAS(EWP)

Deflector - Borg Mk XII
Impulse - Borg Mk XII
Warp - Elite Fleet Reinforced Warp Core Mk XII [EPS][E->S][SCap][AMP][SSS]
Shields - Omega Mk XII

Weapons
Fore - Chron DBA, 3x Chroniton Torpedo Mk XII [Acc]x3
Aft - Temporal Device, Chroniton Mine Mk XII [CrtH]x3, Nukara Web Mine

Consoles
Tac - Wake, GPG, Jumper, Imp Cap Cell
Eng - Tachyo, E-RCS Mk XII [+AllRes], E-Neut Mk XII [+Turn]
Sci - 2x Romulan Grav Gen Mk XII [-Th][HuH], Romulan Grav Gen Mk XII [-Th][ShH]

Devices - SFM, RMC
Hey dudes, it doesn't have an LTC tactical slot. It's commander tac, LIEUTENANT tac. Not LTC.
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# 110
07-21-2013, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by illcadia View Post
Hey dudes, it doesn't have an LTC tactical slot. It's commander tac, LIEUTENANT tac. Not LTC.
Thanks, I'll fix that...I was half asleep when I posted it and more focused on all the wheeeee/broken stuff than the actual build. It was meant to be a joke post - Trollvette and all that. I complain about how TIF causes me to desync, lol, I'd never put it in an actual build that would cause me problems like that...heh.

edit: Damn typos, guess I'm not really awake yet either...lol.
Maal, Klingon, Mogh - Vegar, Orion, Marauder - R'ebel, Romulan, Haakona
Willard the Rat, Reman, F.T'varo - Rave, J.Trill, Kar'Fi - Mysk, Gorn, Varanus
Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba - Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethean, M.Qin

Last edited by virusdancer; 07-21-2013 at 02:18 PM.
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