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# 21
08-21-2013, 12:08 PM
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Personally if i saw Worf again in a prime universe trek feature, on either tv or film I would love to see him play an Admiral. He got denied alot during his time on the enterprise would be nice to see him deny some people for a change.
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# 22
08-21-2013, 08:32 PM
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Sisko put a reprimand on Worf's record which he (Sisko) said would almost certainly mean he (Worf) would never be given command of a starship...
True, but if I remember correctly, that was before Worf killed Gowron, saving the war for all the good guys by restoring the Klingons to fighting strength, appointing his BFF Martok as Chancellor (buying substantial influence to bring to bear), led the attack on a vital Dominion shipyard, killed the top Dominion Vorta (which only caused a delay thanks to cloning but massive points for the effort), captained the Defiant in the desperate attempt to stop the Borg at Earth, and served as Federation Ambassador to Quo'nos (reinforcing Martok's influence). All of which were unknown to Sisko at the time he made that statement.
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# 23
08-21-2013, 10:48 PM
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True, but if I remember correctly, that was before Worf killed Gowron, saving the war for all the good guys by restoring the Klingons to fighting strength, appointing his BFF Martok as Chancellor (buying substantial influence to bring to bear), led the attack on a vital Dominion shipyard, killed the top Dominion Vorta (which only caused a delay thanks to cloning but massive points for the effort), captained the Defiant in the desperate attempt to stop the Borg at Earth, and served as Federation Ambassador to Quo'nos (reinforcing Martok's influence). All of which were unknown to Sisko at the time he made that statement.
That is of course true, but, it wasn't just a reprimand for a disciplinary infraction such as brawling in Quark's or drunk on duty, but for a very specific lapse in judgement which was incompatible with command. It was essentially like failing the bridge officer's test (which he was never shown to have taken, as his rank was never elevated to Commander) and equally, as much as I love Worf (in a totally non-homo way ) and think he's a badass, he has never shown any kind of development of personal moral character, but instead, always shows himself as rather lacking in that area... (initially fobbing Alexander off on his foster-parents, his behaviour towards Ezri Dax etc) I simply don't believe that Worf's is capable of having that 'moment of clarity' which would enable him to grow as a person and be capable of making that kind of decision again in a way which would enable him to 'pass the test'. By contrast, by the time of the Dominion war, Nog had proven beyond doubt that he was no longer the scheming punk he was in Emissary, but had grown into the model of a Starfleet officer. Worf, on the other hand, was exactly the same as when he objected to commanding the saucer section in Encounter at Farpoint... Oh sure, Worf could probably order an underling to their death, but a close friend or family member, no chance -- he just doesn't have the stones for it. IMHO, he would never be fully suitable for a command situation as he doesn't have the capacity within him to make the necessary emotional steps...
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# 24
08-21-2013, 11:22 PM
I was just coming over here to see if there was a thread about this yet.

IMO, I think it's a cool idea for a television series. For no other reason than it's outside the box. Something that I think Enterprise thought they were doing when it was new. But failed horribly. For the first time we would have Star Trek without the expansion of the Federation as integral to the core plot. Unless, of course, we get to watch the Empire fold into the Federation in it's future.

That said, I was really in favor of Star Trek: Excelsior, too. I wanted a Captain Sulu television series. But that never went anywhere. Despite some loud fan support for the concept.
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# 25
08-22-2013, 04:35 AM
We can still get a Capt. Sulu TV series, but you have to change it a little. You can still have Sulu from the TOS play a role in in the series, just make him an Admiral. Then you can open the door for his kid to be the Captain of the Excelsior. So you still would have a Capt. Sulu in command of that ship. If they go in this direction, I think people would watch it. Plus this would be a gap filler in Trek timelines.

Doesn't this period happen around the Klingon and Romulan war time?
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# 26
08-22-2013, 05:06 AM
a gap filler in Trek timelines.


A between Archer / Kirk tv series is needed I think, again with Kirk / Picard. They need to be treated alot better than Enterprise was though.

I wonder, Do you think in about 20 years or so there will be a Voyager TNG

Actually an idea that may work would be a series set onboard a Wells and could be called Star Trek: Temporal Incursions. With technology as it is right now there would be scope to interact with all past ST series, just like the DS9 episode Trials and Tribbleations
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# 27
08-22-2013, 08:44 AM
I would love to see a show about Klingon/Federation integration.
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# 28
08-22-2013, 10:09 AM
This. I have no objection at all to a new series, even one more Klingon centric, however I don't think ST should EVER center on a person. The highest level of focus it should have is ship level.
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# 29
08-22-2013, 12:22 PM
IMO, a mini-series would probably be better. Start off with The Klingons and a few (or more) 2 hour movies, take a break, then do some more with either the same characters or new ones.
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# 30
08-22-2013, 01:28 PM
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IMO, a mini-series would probably be better. Start off with The Klingons and a few (or more) 2 hour movies, take a break, then do some more with either the same characters or new ones.
The problem is that the set features: ship interiors, bridge, costumes, weapons, etc are a huge part of any show's initial budget. Those costs are usually displaced over a 13-24 episode season - and hopefully several additional seasons as well. It's hard to recoup those costs on 2 hour TV movies.

For example, the first season of Defiance was budgeted for $40 million, but it's estimated that nearly half the original cost was set design for the city, set interiors, vehicles, weapons, makeup and clothing for all the species, etc. Season 2 of Defiance is coming it at around $25 million - an average of $2 million per episode - because most of the set costs are nonexistent for season 2.

For Trek to work on TV they need to get enough episodes out of the sets per season to justify their costs.
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