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# 11
08-26-2013, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by howiedizzle View Post
Pro trolling
Indeed. I'm taking notes.
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# 12
08-26-2013, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by iconians View Post
Wow, only 3 posts before the inevitable mighty klingon warrior temper tantrum over Cryptic doing or not doing something. You guys are getting better and better at taking potentially productive threads down into the gutter of whining with something completely unrelated to the topic.

Maybe the reason noone visits the KDF forums is because for three years you guys have cried yourselves hoarse over everything and nothing and noone takes you guys seriously anymore.

The KDF faction players are like the girlfriend you put up with because you're afraid of being alone, but the sad fact of the matter is all she does is whine and complain and you just have to tune it out to keep the peace.
Wow, only 9 posts before the inevitable "Klingons whine" post.

Maybe the reason there are so few posts in the KDF forums are the people who constantly come in and shout "whiner" no matter who says what.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 13
08-26-2013, 04:09 AM
First of all, like doffingcomrade said - there are more posts and replies in the KDF section of the forum than on the Fed. one.

The forum might have gotten a bit slower lately, but there are simple and logical reasons for this:

- The player bootyboots created the "Master list of KDF issues", so all Klingon players share their bugs and issues there, in one place, making a clearly visible compilation of all the troubles that KDF is facing to players and devs alike. From experience I know that KDF players are more organized, so we accepted that thread as a way to express our concerns rather than spamming the forum with hundreds of other threads.

- The KDF is a complete faction now. Yes, it still has it's shortcommings, but the general idea is that it's now a full leveling and PvE experience, without being locked behind the Federation for 25 levels. Many players are content with this improvement and don't come to complain about stuff because the biggest issue was resolved. To me it feels that the new Klingon I made after LoR is my first complete KDF char. due to this and I've been enjoying the game on the red side.

- The KDF players are generally more organized and the majority is very knowledgeable about the gameplay and mechanics. I have seen players starting threads asking for advice or insight that were resolved by the first KDF player who gave a detailed and thorough explanation and help, so there was no need for anyone else to post in and continue the discussion in said thread.

- I have seen that the most KDF players that post here are realists. In his latest KDF related interview for "The Gates of Sto'vo'kor" dStahl was very direct and almost brutally honest about what is planned for the KDF in the near future. One C-Store ship later this year and the next time we get ships is Season 10. There will be fleet ships in between, but which and when is up to Geko.
KDF players knowing that this has been made clear in a very honest manner won't start 100 threads about "The K'Vort" or the "New Negh'var" like there are thoulsands of threads about Tier 5 Connie, 1000 about U.S.S. Vengeance and so on...We'll just wait for what was promised.

- Sometimes more is not better. When a new or inexperienced player gets his answer and proper advice within 3 to 5 posts, I consider that better than the thread that simply asked for ex. "What is the best KDF escort?" to evolve into a global useless debate about anything or everything.

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Originally Posted by iconians View Post
Wow, only 3 posts before the inevitable mighty klingon warrior temper tantrum over Cryptic doing or not doing something. You guys are getting better and better at taking potentially productive threads down into the gutter of whining with something completely unrelated to the topic.

Maybe the reason noone visits the KDF forums is because for three years you guys have cried yourselves hoarse over everything and nothing and noone takes you guys seriously anymore.

The KDF faction players are like the girlfriend you put up with because you're afraid of being alone, but the sad fact of the matter is all she does is whine and complain and you just have to tune it out to keep the peace.
Wow, you're actually getting better at trolling! Not quite there yet, though. Remember, practice makes perfect.
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# 14
08-26-2013, 04:11 AM
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Wow, only 3 posts before the inevitable mighty klingon warrior temper tantrum over Cryptic doing or not doing something. You guys are getting better and better at taking potentially productive threads down into the gutter of whining with something completely unrelated to the topic.
Who's whining? I'm satisfied with how things are. I'm just saying, that's how it IS. But never forget this: The entropy of a closed system can only increase. This means whatever happens, things will get worse, and the best thing that could happen is for the neglect to simply continue. Let's not forget what happened the LAST time we got attention: 20 extra levels of pointless grind and the "skip" button nerfed.

And that's why, despite the crappy situation that things may appear to be in, I'm perfectly fine with being left alone.
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# 15
08-26-2013, 04:23 AM
Wow.... just wow... so... it is heard KDF will get a new Ship before or AT Season 8.... and wont get a new one until Season 10... while the Federatoin will get a few again...

I'm trying my best not to whine, but why does Cryptic HAVE to sell KDF ships in years and FED ships in months... its just sad... there just isn't much to work with on the Empire, Ships are good... more so consoles... but variety to decide? None.

Again, Cryptic must find a deem-able Reason or they wont do it. Here is what I think a Good reason is...

KDF is Now Lvl 1-50

Interest is Higher, But Can Be Even Higher With More Attention

Already, Romulans are Catching Up To All Klingon Content, Almost Surpassing It, When The Initial Promise Was KDF Will Be Finished Before A New Faction, And With Mission Strength, And Z-Store, Etc. Much Higher Quality.

*Side Bar on the Surpassing

VO Is Still Not In KDF MIssions, As Promised
"Don't Say A Word" About The Empire!
It DOES Need Attention
We Don't Whine, We Bring Up Issues On A Firm Stand

Captain
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# 16
08-26-2013, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blagorm View Post
Wow.... just wow... so... it is heard KDF will get a new Ship before or AT Season 8.... and wont get a new one until Season 10
MAAAAAYBE. I find this claim frankly implausible. The second part is also implausible, since I see no reason why there would be a new ship in Season 10 given that there won't be on in season 8.
Captain
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# 17
08-26-2013, 05:03 AM
Would that be the free carrier everybody's getting? Like, a non-faction-specific ship?

I mean, I'd love to get a new KDF ship, and I've heard talk of a c-store NeghVar I'd be very curious about, but I'm hesitant to jump at rumours...
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# 18
08-26-2013, 09:15 AM
So... KDF no new ships people are saying?

*MELODRAMATIC SCENE*

*100 Fed Ships Later

Klingon High Council: We are in desperate needs of supplies, please, give us some so we can continue our arsenal of ships...

Q (Cryptic): *interruption* I am sorry, but you already got A Full, 75% Complete Faction, Who Would You Need A Ship? You got the Bortasqu' in 2409...

Klingon High Council: ITS 2490 NOW!!!!

Q: Oh... I see. *checks his mind* I am sorry, the Federation does not want you to have new ships. They are willing to pay me, at least, pay me entertainment to see the Federation dominate your warrior Faction. Tell the Gorn to leave, maybe that will free up your supplies, they sure as heck will be happy to leave and get their land back. Saves you the resources. That will be all. GOD HAS SPOKEN! *ends hail*

Klingon High Council: THE KINGDOM IS LOST!

*you see 1/100 of the Beta Quadrant Burst In Flames*

See? VERY MELODRAMATIC!

Wow... no idea where this comment came from... but anyways... don't get Melodramatic about my post. Just continue on, maybe reply.
"Don't Say A Word" About The Empire!
It DOES Need Attention
We Don't Whine, We Bring Up Issues On A Firm Stand

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# 19
08-27-2013, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by howiedizzle View Post
Pro trolling
Nah. It was a poor attempt with little to set it above the standard fedflunkyfanboi "wow, you Klinks whine alot etc etc" troll posts that one has come to expect.
I give it a poor rating of -1 out of 10.
Seen much better back in the days of old. The Old School fed trolls had that respectable Kirkesque quality that was more entertaining.
STO is very much an Adam One culture and completely inarticulate about Adam Two.

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# 20
08-27-2013, 05:34 PM
I think one of you guys had been blasting him while he was farming at Kerrat or something.

Or killed him when he was trying a Rainbow Build in PVP or something like that
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