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# 11
08-29-2013, 03:18 PM
Ding Ding Ding Round 1...

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# 12
08-29-2013, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by darkphoxy View Post
I believe this isn't fair and I learned something new from my lawyer.

Sine the ruling on Bitcoin caused the United states to see DIGITAL CURRENCY as legal tender they have now just broken the law! So they will be getting a letter from my lawyer in a week or so for selling me a product that they just up and revoked without any form of re-compensation.
Please keep us apprised of the forthcoming legal proceedings. It's been a long summer and many here could use a good laugh at your expense.
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# 13
08-29-2013, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by darkphoxy View Post
Sine the ruling on Bitcoin caused the United states to see DIGITAL CURRENCY as legal tender they have now just broken the law! So they will be getting a letter from my lawyer in a week or so for selling me a product that they just up and revoked without any form of re-compensation.
You seem to have misunderstood the terms of the ruling. The judge simply ruled that Bitcoin is a form of currency (in this case a security) that can be traded for other forms of currency and was subject to regulation under law. He did not make it legal tender which is an entirely different kettle of fish.

The ruling also meant that the Founder of Bitcoin Savings and Trust could be prosecuted by the US for running a Ponzi scheme, which several Bitcoin operations are debated to be.
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# 14
08-29-2013, 04:46 PM
(Goes to the cupboard, and starts tearing into several boxes of "Cracker Jacks")

Where is my Ivy league law degree! They promised one as the toy supprise!
That redshirt, Totally got vaped!!!
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# 15
08-29-2013, 05:02 PM
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Ah, see, that's the thing though. You can't use it at all. If I decide to change like my Klingon Bridge officers uniform it acts like I never bought it at all. Doesn't show up anywhere.

Then you get told that you have to buy it again but now its only half price... so technically since its half price now if I do that I paid 3 times as much to use the same uniform on my Boffs'

I believe this isn't fair and I learned something new from my lawyer.

Sine the ruling on Bitcoin caused the United states to see DIGITAL CURRENCY as legal tender they have now just broken the law! So they will be getting a letter from my lawyer in a week or so for selling me a product that they just up and revoked without any form of re-compensation.
Every time someone get mad on a videogame forum, he claim he have a lawyer, and will prosecute the game company soon.

That's a lot of lawyers, and not a lot of lawsuits. I wonder what happen everytime.. Oh I know, they doesn't have a lawyer, and there is nothing to prosecute ! I get it !
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# 16
08-29-2013, 05:54 PM
Man, I was about to watch my favorite netflix series, but this thread is too good to pass up. Ding Ding! I think my popcorn just finished in the microwave. Brb. Man that popcorn smells good!
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# 17
08-29-2013, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by erei1 View Post
Every time someone get mad on a videogame forum, he claim he have a lawyer, and will prosecute the game company soon.

That's a lot of lawyers, and not a lot of lawsuits. I wonder what happen everytime.. Oh I know, they doesn't have a lawyer, and there is nothing to prosecute ! I get it !
Wait, don't spread your sarcasme around, yet. Cryptic is still a company, if you fail to understand that, and bound to regulations by the laws where they are settled. Happens that they are settled in the same state as Linden Labs, the mogol of virtual worlds, and ask them how justice is looking against virtual gained and claimed possesions. Your eyes would pop out of your head if you hear what claim they had to pay to an user wherefrom they wouldn't pay out, refund, the virtual arquired wealth of that person. It was, if I recall it well, a figure of above 7 figures in USD. Furthermore, if a person doesn't agree with how things are going with a company, even if it is a gaming company, there is still FTC, Federal Trade Commission, where he can drop annomynous a complaint. Do you still think that the gaming industry is an outlaw world ? Get real.
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# 18
08-29-2013, 08:12 PM
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Wait, don't spread your sarcasme around, yet. Cryptic is still a company, if you fail to understand that, and bound to regulations by the laws where they are settled. Happens that they are settled in the same state as Linden Labs, the mogol of virtual worlds, and ask them how justice is looking against virtual gained and claimed possesions. Your eyes would pop out of your head if you hear what claim they had to pay to an user wherefrom they wouldn't pay out, refund, the virtual arquired wealth of that person. It was, if I recall it well, a figure of above 7 figures in USD. Furthermore, if a person doesn't agree with how things are going with a company, even if it is a gaming company, there is still FTC, Federal Trade Commission, where he can drop annomynous a complaint. Do you still think that the gaming industry is an outlaw world ? Get real.
Now you're just making stuff up. It was a $172,000 settlement *in a class action*, paid out in virtual currency. Furthermore, in both Evans and Bragg, suit was brought over closed accounts. You still have access to your account, you still have access to the uniform, you're just unable to use it in the fashion that you wish.

Also, Linden runs Second Life, a game premised on the ability to convert currency and value in and out of the game. Not at all like STO.

So if you actually bring suit against Cryptic, it'll be fun to watch. Your lawyer. In his new sports car.

But not a lot else will happen.
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# 19
08-29-2013, 08:15 PM
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Now you're just making stuff up.....
heh.

good times....good times.
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# 20
08-29-2013, 08:25 PM
I love armchair forum lawyers. It's like giving a handgun to a six-year-old, you don't know how it's gonna end, but you're pretty sure it's gonna make the papers.
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