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# 11
09-08-2013, 08:53 AM
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It is an interesting idea but I dont like the idea of being for older ships only as newer ships are meant to be somewhat modular as well. Bridge layout would be simple to do and have only a few choices per ship. like swap the 2 lowest seats only, one that swaps the 2 middle seats, and one that swaps consoles only but not the console slots that go with the ship, cruisers cannot swap engi console as example. console and lowest seat for 750 zen and middle seats for 1k zen. Then 1 that reverts it back to original.
At first, only the "oldest" ships (meaning pre F2P T5 ships, not in-universe oldest ships) would be included into this system, later if necessary newer ships that aren't up to date anymore would be included.


I think it could work like this:
There would be some NPC at the shipyard offering Bridge Module Replacments.
He offers several standard bridges (BOFF/Console Layouts) for each ship type (Escort, Science and Cruiser.)
A bridge module would completely replace the current Ships BOFF/Console Layout with the new one.

So Cruisers would get AC, SC and GCS BOFF/Console layouts to choose; Escorts get Advanced Escort, Patrol Escort and Tactical Escort Retrofit Bridges; Science Ships get Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit, Deep Space Science Vessel and Reconnaissance Science Vessel Bridges.
These are the basic Bridge modules which are free for everyone.

Cryptic could sell additional (more advanced, having at least one universal Station) Bridge Layouts at the C-Store. Once bought the Bridge module can be used forever, but each installment would cost like a Character trait respec.


The same system would be possible for KDF ships too.
(I'm not so sure about making BOFF/Console layouts availlable for the other factions.)



With this system Cryptic would ensure to keep older and the most iconc Ships up to date and would make a lot of cash constantly.
This sytem would work like a guarantee, so older ships would still be worth to be bought even in 5 years. Maybe Cryptic could give each player a Bridge Module token for free once a year or something like that.

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# 12
09-08-2013, 04:07 PM
I'd really like to fly a galaxy class. It's my favorite ship. Unfortunately, my playstyle would mean making me fly an excelcier class for it's specs and boff layout. I wish there was a way to do this. I think I'd be happy even if I could have a galaxy class "costume" that made my ship look that way to me but still appear to be the actual ship to everyone else. That's what the modding community did for WoW in making one mount in the game appear to be one you wanted from your perspective but not others.
Commander
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# 13
09-08-2013, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by packer3434 View Post
Would it make money for Cryptic though? Currently whenever they make a new and powerful ship everyone runs out to get it (I obviously don't know the exact amount).

If your proposal was implemented wouldn't a good portion of those people just keep the $25 dollar ship they have and only buy the cheaper bridge modules thereby losing Cryptic money?

I'm assuming the bridge modules would be cheaper than an actual ship as that seems more likely in my mind.

Congrats on showing your lack of insight on the issue of TrekkieVsCryptic


The answer is YES it would make Cryptic money. Updating ships like the retrofit D(Saucer sep) and the Dreadnaught variants this way would actually BOOST sales since these two ships are the most wanted and also the BIGGEST POTENTIAL SELLERS players tell others NOT TO BUY.

Adding purchasable Bridge Modules not only changes how these ships have failed for a long time now it boosts their abysmal approval rating through the roof... even if you have to buy the ship and then the bridge modules... or just the modules on the T5 ships.
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# 14
09-10-2013, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sunseahl View Post
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The answer is YES it would make Cryptic money. Updating ships like the retrofit D(Saucer sep) and the Dreadnaught variants this way would actually BOOST sales since these two ships are the most wanted and also the BIGGEST POTENTIAL SELLERS players tell others NOT TO BUY.

Adding purchasable Bridge Modules not only changes how these ships have failed for a long time now it boosts their abysmal approval rating through the roof... even if you have to buy the ship and then the bridge modules... or just the modules on the T5 ships.
Not only that Cryptic would make sure that every single ship they have made and even future ships will never be outdated, since they only had to add newer Bridge Modules to the C-Store and include ships that have become outdated from time to time.

So Cryptic would in a way guarantee their products won't be obsolete somewhen, this would increases their reputation and trust among the playerbase.

One wouldn't have to fear that his/her favourite ship will ever be too much outdated, while Cryptic could still sell "hot" new ships that outperform the rest.
So it would be a Win- Win for everyone.

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Lieutenant
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# 15
09-10-2013, 06:01 PM
good idea. You could fly any ship and be competitive in game.
Captain
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# 16
09-10-2013, 06:37 PM
What'd be nice, really, is if they sold the ships just as a set of stats - so many console slots, boff slots, power modifiers, etc. - and let you apply whatever skin you liked to them. (OK, maybe limit it by ship class, so you don't have big bulky cruisers zooming around like light escorts... but just by ship class).

Cryptic still sell all the different ship... formats, let's call them... but players can make them look like whatever they like. Slap a Constitution skin onto a Star Cruiser format, and bang! there's yer T5 Connie, which would appeal to some. (Let's be honest, it'd appeal to me, I'm a TOS purist )

The only practical problem I can see is with the visuals - setting up the right weapons hardpoints and stuff. Still, it's not an insuperable obstacle - and it'd be a big step towards letting people fly the ships they want, the way they want. (Which would be a Good Thing.)
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# 17
09-10-2013, 08:21 PM
I think from a logistics standpoint, if you did this, it would probably need to tie somehow into what bridge you use on your interior.

I get the idea of it being tied to stations but I can't shake that it should tie into bridge in every sense of the word, if not influencing your bridge model then maybe swapping out your LCARs, Doff assignments, and some aspects of the interior.
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# 18
09-10-2013, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
I think from a logistics standpoint, if you did this, it would probably need to tie somehow into what bridge you use on your interior.

I get the idea of it being tied to stations but I can't shake that it should tie into bridge in every sense of the word, if not influencing your bridge model then maybe swapping out your LCARs, Doff assignments, and some aspects of the interior.
It would give people are reason to buy Bridge skins *shrug*
Captain
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# 19
09-10-2013, 10:21 PM
Instead how about the magic of properly scaled ship interiors?

You can fit 2 defiant bridges on the defiant bridge.

Dont even get me on corridors. My 7' Alien isnt tall enough to reach the ceiling. Let alone being able to walk 6-8 people side by side down the corridor.

I do not want new bridges and interiors until the can make the at the very lleast a more reasonable scale.........
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# 20
09-11-2013, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
I think from a logistics standpoint, if you did this, it would probably need to tie somehow into what bridge you use on your interior.

I get the idea of it being tied to stations but I can't shake that it should tie into bridge in every sense of the word, if not influencing your bridge model then maybe swapping out your LCARs, Doff assignments, and some aspects of the interior.
Not necessarily, since you can put on all kinds of different bridges (interiors) on your ships without influencing your BOFF/Console layout.

To tie both would mean to limit peoples choice which bridge (interior) they can use, which would completely contradict to the idea of giving people MORE options to modify their ships.

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