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# 21
09-13-2013, 10:10 PM
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As far as the performance though... It has a lot of Competition that outshines it. The Valor, especially the Fleet one, the Fleet Dhelan, the Fleet T'Varo, and the Vet ship all are superior to this ship.
So several Fleet T5.5 ships are better than this ship? Say it ain't so! I guess we should all ragequit right now!

Which one are we talking about? Better than the T4 with the quad cannon? Or better than the T5 Retrofit?

I bought one yesterday, because its a beauty, and I had the zen sitting there that I'd bought on sale. I don't care that it doesn't pwn in PvP. Not all of us give a fig about PvP.
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# 22
09-14-2013, 12:35 AM
The Ar'kala skin looks magnificent, and I remember it handled well on Tribble. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether it will replace my Mogai or T'Varo. I'll probably get the Ar'kala at least as I have a 2nd character to level.

I'm also waiting to see what the Fleet version looks like too. I can see this ship being used as a sciscort, but the T'Varo does that better. The Lt.Commdr universal slot only seems to work for eng or sci boffs. The mogai can support a aux2batt build pretty comfortably. On the other hand, the Ar'kala looks better than the mogai :3
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# 23
09-14-2013, 03:05 AM
Saw a couple of the new ships in STFs and other events last night. They look good but thats about all they are good for from the looks of it. Kept my engineering skills busy thats for sure trying to keep them alive!

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# 24
09-14-2013, 08:14 AM
mine is quite durable, depends on how you equip it, its easily as good as my adapted destroyer, the plasma damage boost is handy as is the beam, I am only set up for pve, but so far its destroying borg, tholians and what ever gets sent against the starbase. its more durable than any of its predecessor's and its consoles make it very viable, the quads are just what I expected, as a cannon boat its got god turn even with its inertia rating, and is on par I would say, with the multi vector escort which I also have.
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# 25
09-14-2013, 10:42 AM
Given it's stats, I see the Ar'kiff being at least as durable as a non-Fleet T'Varo, and I don't hear many complaints about those,...

The Retrofit Ar'kiff has the same basic stats as the Dhelan Retrofit in strength and such, and no one bitches about it much either, so,... I think some people just like to complain.

The exception to the above is of course turn/inertia rates, and Boff layout which is expected.
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# 26
09-14-2013, 11:03 AM
Existing Romulan C-Store ships are superior. Boff & Console arrangements are very poor. Not to mention the other C-Store Warbirds offer better performance if you want a specific style.

You want traditional high Cmdr / LtCdr TAC stations? Regular Ha'feh is superior

You want a destroyer with Cmdr TAC & LtCdr ENG stations? The c-store Mogai is superior.

You want a ESC-SCI? The c-store Dhelan is superior.

This new ship is outclassed already by existing warbirds. Your performance will drop even more when you stuff the Plasma Quad Cannons.

Quad Cannons, all types, not only drop weapon energy, but engine energy also. That alone is a dealbreaker for me. Also, Quad Cannons also have [dmg]x4 mods. The absolute worst mods you can have on any weapon possible, x4. If you want "pew" with cannons and can swing narrow arc weapons around easily, DHCs are still superior. And DHCs will not nerf your ENG power while firing.
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# 27
09-14-2013, 06:40 PM
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Saw a couple of the new ships in STFs and other events last night. They look good but thats about all they are good for from the looks of it. Kept my engineering skills busy thats for sure trying to keep them alive!
I swear there is a bug that allows the hull to take major hits and melt away even with full shields.

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# 28
09-14-2013, 08:58 PM
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I swear there is a bug that allows the hull to take major hits and melt away even with full shields.
Probably a simple case of the player not using the LtCdr Universal station on ENG. EPTS gone, go bye bye when under fire in an STF.
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# 29
09-14-2013, 09:19 PM
It's uninspiring and inflexible. It's not BAD, being that it's the same as one of the common Temporal Destroyer layouts, but it's not offering anything Romulans don't have. The Universal station is a fake choice: You really can't use it for anything other than Engi, unless you want a paper plane. We saw how well that worked out for the Kumari. Unlike the versatility of most of the other Romulan warbirds, this one has a complete lack of flexibility and a locked-in layout as a result of Fake Uni Choice. It's a firmly mediocre ship, and in the world of Romulan OPness, Mediocre = Crap.

Plus, it has no fleet version, because apparently copypasting a fleet version was too much work. Between the Dhelan and the Mogwai, you can easily get a better ship in fleet-level flavor.
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# 30
09-14-2013, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by royalsovereign View Post
So several Fleet T5.5 ships are better than this ship? Say it ain't so! I guess we should all ragequit right now!

Which one are we talking about? Better than the T4 with the quad cannon? Or better than the T5 Retrofit?

I bought one yesterday, because its a beauty, and I had the zen sitting there that I'd bought on sale. I don't care that it doesn't pwn in PvP. Not all of us give a fig about PvP.
I am talking about the lvl 50 ship using both the Quads and its console. So basically using the full set on the end level ship.

Also I am not talking about just PvP. It also does not really shine in PvE by comparison to most of its realistic competition. (Not even getting into the Scimitar here...)

However, it is not "Bad" it just is not particularly "Good". Meaning that if you want the best ship that is reasonably affordable then this is not really it. If you already have the other ships then this still loses. If you are fine with it being a bit less than stellar but still functional and truly love the looks (which are beautiful) then it is fine.


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Given it's stats, I see the Ar'kiff being at least as durable as a non-Fleet T'Varo, and I don't hear many complaints about those,...

The Retrofit Ar'kiff has the same basic stats as the Dhelan Retrofit in strength and such, and no one bitches about it much either, so,... I think some people just like to complain.

The exception to the above is of course turn/inertia rates, and Boff layout which is expected.
It only suffers from Tank and Output issues when using its Quads and Console especially when compared to the Fleet T'Varo (Come on... They are one of the easiest to get), Fleet Dhelan (Nearly the same ease), and even the Vet Ship (Hard to get or easy depending).


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I swear there is a bug that allows the hull to take major hits and melt away even with full shields.
1) Low Shield power = Low Resistance

2) There is, discharge your shuttlecraft. If you don't you can sometimes end up taking damage to the shuttle's hull somehow and that really screws up your tank.
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