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# 941
09-24-2013, 06:50 PM
the versatile vet ship

you can do just about anything with this one, it has the best station setup in my opinion. you could set it up like a classic escort with an LTC tac, but your proboly beter off using a real escort thats got a 16 or better turn rate, and 10 consoles. with this station setup, to get the most out of it its best to run a 2 AtB build. most of these builds can be applied to the jem heavy, wich is sorta a +1 version of this ship. its down 1 turn but its got 10 consoles and a hanger.

2 AtB Peghqu and Daeinos

typical layout i favor, 2 of the 3 vet ships have a battlecloak, greatly increasing attack performance, this is best used with them. EPtS3 is much more helpful at keeping you alive then RSP, its got the bug impulse mod so you should be running and cloaking before you would even need to use it.


3 DHC, 1 DBB, 3 turrets

TT1, CRF1, BO3, APO3
ET1, AtB1, EPtS3
EPtE1, AtB1

TSS1, HE2
TB1


equipment

borg engine
borg deflector
elite shield resA/B

consoles

3 RCS +allres

vet ship console, leach

4 energy type consoles

required DOFFs

3 tech, 2 BO penetration doff


beam array chimera

i have found i can build stronger beam boats out of this then i can in tac cruisers. its far easier to keep all guns on target, and the tactical COM can be of great use for buffing or debuffing, in exchange for 1 beam and proboly DEM. i like this in pvp, i can choose between strong AOE or a direct finishing move BO3. this ship burns down anything close very quickly, and has far better ability to position then a cruiser, with the same heals and defenses as a cruiser. CPB is a nasty surprise to any battlecloaker that thinks they can escape your DPS.

TT1, FAW2, BO3, APO3
ET1, AtB1, EPtS3
EPtW1, AtB1

HE1, CBP1
TSS1


equipment

borg engine
borg deflector
elite shield resA/B

consoles

borg, zero point, nukara

vet ship console, leach

4 energy type consoles

required DOFFs

3 tech, 2 BO penetration doff


pve/force multiplier beam array chimera

this version might be a bit more PVE friendly, or better at adding a strong force multiplier to a teams effort. APO would be mostly for defense here. use the DEM doff for the greatest possible energy damage and bleed through

TT1, FAW2, APO1, APB3
ET1, AtB1, DEM2
EPtW1, AtB1
EPtS1

TSS, HE2

equipment

borg engine
borg deflector
elite shield resA/B

consoles

borg, zero point, nukara

vet ship console, leach

4 energy type consoles

doffs

3 tech, DEM doff, BFI doff


sci LTC vet ship

the ship is also capable of having a LTC and LT sci, giving you access to the most powerful team support heals in a faster and more maneuverable then a vesta. with the COM tac you can lay large mine fields wile you zip around healing and supporting others.

2 breen, 2 trans torps, 3 trans mines

TT1, APD1, DPB2, DPB3
EPtS1, ES1
EPtA1

ST1, HE2, TSS3
HE1, TSS2


equipment

KHG engine
KHG deflector
elite shield resA/B

consoles

borg, zero point, SIF

2 shield emitter

4 trans damage

required DOFFs

2 damage control, 3 projectile
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# 942
09-24-2013, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by webdeath View Post
DDIS,

While looking through the builds and so forth of the more recient pages I started to wonder..

Do you have any Build suggestions perhaps for some one who was just fresh off level 50 but doesn't have access to Rep Powers/Store upgrades/Set bonuses..

Kind of a Poor Man's PVP Build?

I know this might be a silly question to ask, but thought it might be a good thing to check on..

sorta, the first group of ships in that beginner category pretty much fits that bill. i should take a gander at some of them too, but being so basic they are much more timeless, if you lack all the toys
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# 943
09-24-2013, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
sorta, the first group of ships in that beginner category pretty much fits that bill. i should take a gander at some of them too, but being so basic they are much more timeless, if you lack all the toys
Just wanted to double check that. Its always nice to know that there are places to start. Though You also might want to make sure some of them are also I guess.. Not out of date where links are concerned? If that makes sense?

I remember trying to check one of the links and it didn't work, or didn't bring me to the right info, but I forget which one at this time.
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# 944
09-24-2013, 10:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
Renim's DPS widget

with all the excitement about DPS suppression around here at the moment, here's a new toy to show what your actual DPS is in real time, rather then a match average. being dissatisfied by the non information ACT gives, i asked renim if he could make a tool that displayed real time DPS, thankfully he was able to make it no prob, and its got great functionality.

https://bitbucket.org/Renimalt/sto-r...odpswidget.jar

it reads the combat log, so you have to type /combat log 1 first to get it to work. it displays the DPS of anyone generating entries for it. you can display just you, just 1 person in particular, or everyone. from between 1 and 10 seconds, you can set it to display the average DPS in that time interval. great little toy, its especially interesting to see displayed DPS durring the first few seconds of an alpha strike, not just the DPS for your broad sides.
So I downloaded it and was wondering if there is any information on what the folllowing means:

aDPS bDPS and aDPS/bDPS ?
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# 945
09-25-2013, 12:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by webdeath View Post
So I downloaded it and was wondering if there is any information on what the folllowing means:

aDPS bDPS and aDPS/bDPS ?
hmm, just downloaded it again my self, i seem to be using an older version that doesn't have any clicky boxes. when i figure out what those do, i'll update the post. for now aDPS seems to just be normal dps
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# 946
09-25-2013, 03:50 PM
MVAM

the MVAM escort is one of the 5 tac console escorts. not only that, but it can separation to 3 parts and you can choose which you would like to control. the main advantage to this is the high turn rate you can get out of it, at the price of some hitpoints. on top of those 2 advantages, it can run a LTC level sci power, which you can do all sorts of interesting things with. i think this ship has renewed worth with its ability to slot anti cloaking measured with little sacrifice.

Weapon

3 DHC, 1 DBB, 3 turrets

defensive

a focus on heals with the LTC sci

Stations

TT1, CRF1, BO3, APO3
TT1, CRF1
BO1

EPtE1, EPtS2
HE1, HE2, TSS3

Equipment

borg deflector
borg engine
elite shield

Consoles

turn +res, MVAM
borg, zero point, leach
5 weapon energy

required DOFFs

2/3 EPtX cooldown damage control doffs, 2/3 BO doffs


high partial gen

this focuses on more creative methods of dealing damage, but can leave light on heals. particle gens primarily buff the damage of the sci skills that deal any, and the powerful isometric charge console. your going to want high aux and tac buffs ready for when you have a good opertunity to use FBP, and ideally low aux with TBR so you dont push so much as deal damage.

Stations

TT1, CRF1, BO3, APO3
TT1, CRF1
BO1

EPtE1, EPtS2
HE1, TBR1, FBP2

Equipment

borg deflector
borg engine
elite shield

Consoles

iso charge, MVAM
3 partical gen + shield proc
5 weapon energy

required DOFFs
2/3 EPtX cooldown damage control doffs, 2/3 BO doffs


anti cloaker

charged particle burst is supposed to be a shield striping skill with the added effect of decloaking anyone within 5 range of you. seeing as trying to shield strip is useless these days, and theres a faction full of battlecloakers, this skill has a new lease on life. you can spec into subspace decompilers to make the cloak disable last a bit longer. romulan ships tend to have a bit of trouble standing up in a strait fight, so if one successfully battlecloaks on you mid fight, and you can tag them with this, theres a pretty good chance they are hosed if you can keep up the pressure.

Stations

TT1, CRF1, BO3, APO3
TT1, CRF1
BO1

EPtE1, EPtS2
HE1, CPB1, TSS3

Equipment

borg deflector
borg engine
elite shield

Consoles
turn +res, MVAM
borg, zero point, leach
5 weapon energy

required DOFFs
2/3 EPtX cooldown damage control doffs, 2/3 BO doffs


viral matrix

VM is a royal annoying thing to be hit with in the middle of a dog fight. it can immobilize at a critical moment more reliably then a tractor beam, stop weapons fire, and deny aux based heals or cloaking. its also another great anti cloaking counter measure. hit a person with it who's trying to cloak, and in less then 5 second they will decloak when their aux goes off line, guarantied. the aftershock doffs is nice too, and you have room on the active roster for one

Stations

TT1, CRF1, BO3, APO3
TT1, CRF1
BO1

EPtE1, EPtS2
HE1, TSS1, VM1

Equipment

borg deflector
borg engine
elite shield

Consoles

turn +res, MVAM
borg, zero point, leach
5 weapon energy

required DOFFs

2 EPtX cooldown damage control doffs, 2 BO doffs, 1 vm aftershock doff
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Last edited by dontdrunkimshoot; 09-30-2013 at 06:50 PM.
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# 947
09-25-2013, 04:20 PM
armatage

i am not a fan of pets and spam, but beside the fact that its got a hanger its a nice escort with a unique station setup. with it, you can have top level EPtS, EPtE, and the LT eng has a ton of potential defensive and offensive uses. you could slot DEM there and run the DEM doof, AtS is a great heal and has a HOT doff to go with it, AtD is a great defensive and movement buff, and has a doff that increases its duration and adds energy damage resistance, and then theres the old favorite RSP, theres even a doff for that to increase its duration. its special console might suggest torps being a good thing to run instead of BO, but dont bother trying, you wont get anywhere with them, wile BO can be devastating, especially with the new BO doffs.


Weapons

3 DHC, 1 DBB, 3 turrets

Stations

TT1, CRF1, BO3, APO3
TT, CRF1
BO1

EPtE1, DEM1/AtD1/AtS1/RSP1, EPtS3
TSS1, HE2

Equipment

borg deflector
borg engine
elite shield

Consoles

2 turn +allres, photon point defense
borg, zero point, leach
4 energy type damage

required DOFFs

2 EPtX cooldown damage control doffs, 2 BO penatration doffs, 1 DEM/AtD/AtS/RSP doff


cant go wrong with any of the LT eng option, just depends on what doffs you got so you can get the most out of the slot. for pets you cant go wrong with runabouts, but there is also shield repair drones that pared with EPtS3 make you extreamly hard to kill. you can send them to help an ally too. hell, you could slot ES on this ship in addition to that and support wile your pewpew.
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# 948
09-25-2013, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by webdeath View Post
So I downloaded it and was wondering if there is any information on what the folllowing means:

aDPS bDPS and aDPS/bDPS ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
hmm, just downloaded it again my self, i seem to be using an older version that doesn't have any clicky boxes. when i figure out what those do, i'll update the post. for now aDPS seems to just be normal dps
Yeah, I got lazy and didn't put in those tooltips on this widget.

aDPS = actual DPS, calculated from the damage that you're actually doing over that period of time.

bDPS = base DPS, this is what your weapons are dealing before resists.

aDPS/bDPS = actual / base DPS; this is essentially an indicator of if you're firing on weakened targets.

Slider goes from 1s to 60s; this is the time over which you can calculate your DPS/HPS. Once you set it to X seconds, it'll take X seconds for the numbers to be accurate. (i.e. don't set it to 60s, fire a single shot, and expect that to tell you your 60s-DPS.)

Drop-down name list allows you to select players that have been seen in the match. Use the reset button to clear this list.
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# 949
09-25-2013, 05:17 PM
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Yeah, I got lazy and didn't put in those tooltips on this widget.

aDPS = actual DPS, calculated from the damage that you're actually doing over that period of time.

bDPS = base DPS, this is what your weapons are dealing before resists.

aDPS/bDPS = actual / base DPS; this is essentially an indicator of if you're firing on weakened targets.

Slider goes from 1s to 60s; this is the time over which you can calculate your DPS/HPS. Once you set it to X seconds, it'll take X seconds for the numbers to be accurate. (i.e. don't set it to 60s, fire a single shot, and expect that to tell you your 60s-DPS.)

Drop-down name list allows you to select players that have been seen in the match. Use the reset button to clear this list.
ah, great. i'll update the description then
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# 950
09-26-2013, 06:32 PM
2 AtB galaxy

if your like me, this is your favorite ship, and it makes you sad that its the worst ship in game. but, thanks to the magic of AtB, even it can perform better then most cruisers without AtB.you have enough tac to run all cannons or all beams, no cannons + BO or any attack paterns here. with the tac consoles it has you have to rely on DEM3 for most of your effective damage. 5 turn console can get your unseperated turn rate to about 20.

cannons

single cannons on a cruiser require point blank range application, you have all but no choice but to run EPtE over EPtW as a result. with the console layout this ship has, you might as well try to get the maximum effect per shot by running tet glider too, and buffing it best you can

weapons

4 single cannons, 4 turrets

TT1, CRF1
EPtS1, AtB1, RSP2, DEM3
EPtE1, AtB1, EWP1
ET1

TSS1, HE2

equipment

omega deflector
omega engine
elite shield

consoles

sep console, leach, 3 RCS
3 flow cap
2 energy damage type

required DOFFs

3 purple tech doffs


beams

just try to keep 8 beams on the target at all times. if you have trouble, drop the crit consoles for turn consoles. still having trouble drop EPtW for EPtE. 8 beams on target deals more damage then 4 beams + crit and + 10% damage.

weapons

8 beam arrays

TT1, FAW2
EPtS1, AtB1, RSP2, DEM3
EPtW1, AtB1, EWP1
ET1

TSS1, HE2

equipment

omega deflector
omega engine
elite shield

consoles

sep console, leach, borg, zero point, 1 RCS +all res
3 flow cap
2 energy damage type

required DOFFs

3 purple tech doffs


im not going to bother with any healer builds, because just use something else, anything else will make a better healer, and tank
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