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Lt. Commander
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# 21
10-04-2013, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by hippiejon View Post
So, at what point will Cryptic have done enough for you?

As a primarily KDF player , I am pretty happy at the moment. Not disenchanted at all.

Stahl promised us that he cared about getting Leveling content in the game so we could have KDF characters from Level 1. He talked about how it was important to him.
He endured mountains of crap and smack talk from the community for a long time, and when they both had the time and money to get it done. They did. It's pretty well known that the EP (Stahl) worked overtime hours just to get it done.

The original thread was about "DIRE need" of content and Dev attention.

So, the new episodes obviously don't count as content for you.
And the fact that the EP worked overtime , 6 days a week to provide the content doesn't show any DEV attention for you.

Please, explain why I should still be "disenchanted" (I never was), with the game?

Is it because they (the company/cryptic) set priorities based on what is going to keep them making money and therefore still have a game they can work on, and those priorities don't match what you think should be going on ? If so, http://crypticstudios.com/openings.

Please apply, get on the team, and see how many of your priorities and ideas make it to the top of the "To Do" list.

I am asking honestly here.
Why should I be "Disenchanted" ?
As a comment to this I'd like to say I'm not discenchanted so much as Ever-Hopeful. The Klingon faction is ripe and pregnant with so many great things that could be fleshed out and expanded. I think most of us are just hopeful they press it forward a bit. In all honestly theres' some things I wishthey did more Fed side. Like rethinking Science vessels, or making Andoria come alive, How about putting Tellar Prime on the map? What about the systems with a few of the other important races like the Benzites, Bolians or Betazeds (Sorry I wanted to be alliterative). I think a lot of us aren't filled with vitriol so much as hope, or in some cases frustration with certain things. This is the FORUM for that
Captain
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# 22
10-04-2013, 03:57 AM
Was disenchanted before, am disenchanted again. FOR THE EMPIRE
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# 23
10-04-2013, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
I only did that series on a KDF character who has since been deleted back before there was trait respecs, its a lot of work to get that title on my current KDF main and alts.

I think a better way to protest is for the entire KDF to lock Kerrat down completley until we are given something else to do to keep us occupied
I like this idea!
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# 24
10-04-2013, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
I only did that series on a KDF character who has since been deleted back before there was trait respecs, its a lot of work to get that title on my current KDF main and alts.

I think a better way to protest is for the entire KDF to lock Kerrat down completley until we are given something else to do to keep us occupied
The previous thread also suggested Soldier of the Empire as an alternative title as this is also available to FED players wanting to show support.

Whilst I appreciate the enthusiasm, and personally would LMAO at the FEDs whining that they were getting roflstomped all day long, the original intent behind the Disenchanted title was to show support in a way that was not "game-breaking" or harmful/offensive to other players. Constant annihilation of FED players in Kerrat would certainly get the attention of many, but at what cost?

Disenchanted is a title we bear in every instance, zone, room and combat we enter. It is a badge we wear with pride. I will go out of my way to heal/support a player bearing the title as I know he/she/it() is a kindred. My KDF fleet is called 18 Percent, as that is how we as a collective of players are often portrayed by Cryptic (and someone else took Disenchanted before I could ). Every toon that joins is politely asked to show support by wearing the title.
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# 25
10-04-2013, 12:10 PM
*Waves*. Ben of playing A*I*O*N (for my fantasy fix..which I'd spell as one word but aparrently there is such a strong bit of pettyness on the part of Cryptic studio's that your not allowed to mention that product on the STO forums) and TOR (which is way way better then I thought it was!)

I've stopped playing STO entirely at this point.
I have an LTM, but I bought that to support the game way back when and specificly to play Klingon. (I have one fed toon, thats it, just one)
The lack of attention over the last 4 1/2 years as a KDF player have been beyond beyond. But I stuck with it. WE finally got a tutorial, and some exclusive content to build a decent KDF story line. We still have issues with ships, and KDF exclusive bugs. that are pretty obviously low priority. And frankly we had to make a very big stink just to get that much.

We got thrown a bone... it was pretty meaty as bones go that we've been thrown by the STO dev team.. and it was long long LONG over due.

I notice we don't even seem to have a whole lot of FED trolls wandering into the KDF forums section any more. (I just spent several hours parusing..damd there are a lot of Necro threads now.)

I don't know what the Klingon player count is like these days. Cryptic never says crap about 'em unless its after the fact.. and NEVER provide hard numbers... what they call their "Metrics" (which strikes me as a amazingly stupid policy considering STO really is way down the list on MMO player population and even further down the list on over all meter of the product... If you want to enlist your fan base... especially trek fans, you don't go telling them falsehoods or making up facts. Communications from certain members of the dev team have been amazingly deceptive, and dessemulative over the years.)

I don't object to Crypic making money.. that is after all WHY they do what they do.. Its not out of the goodness of their hearts. Its for a paycheck.. Like any job, being able to love your work is a bonus. But, this is America here, and being able to love your work is not an essential job perk.

I've given my ultimate vote on how Cryptic studio's has handled its product. On hows it treated loyal customers after 4 plus years that have generously dipped into thier pockets.
I've stopped giving them money, and when I get asked about what I think of STO as an MMO I tell the facts, and give my version of the truth.

"It stinks, the company model is entirely about greed. Overall the game has fairly lack luster game play with bloated obtuse game mechanics that is suffering heavily from stat creap. High end player content is loaded with obscure puzzle play that follows a pre programed script like a frieght train locked onto its tracks in typical fantasy MMO fashion.
It does have some exclusive mini games built into the main play but even those are starting to suffer heavily from stat creep. If your a trek fan, then its the only game in town for the forseable future. But it is far from being a first water MMO for a great many reasons. A lack of daring and boldness on the part of the executive team for the product, and a level of greed aimed soak thier customers for thier moeny that would make a Ferengi blanch in shock while delivering what is overall a very sub par product "

SO I am still firmly in the disenchated dept. I'll check back in once in a while with this game to see if theres been any real changes or improvements. But in retrospec and in all considered observation of STO development of KDF content and game play I honestly don't think that Cryptic is going to truely devote any more development into filling in the holes in the KDF ecperience and fixing some of the still major outstanding bugs any time soon. Play balance is a joke, and the factions players are now pretty much being told in all but words..

"Your job is to be the bad guys and get your ass kicked by the good guys. The Federation faction is going to get the very best ships, and the perks, and the advantages. The KDF players are not. And if you go out there and get your but kicked like a good bad guy we might throw something cool your way as long as it doesn't give you an advantage"

I'm tired of that attitude from cryptic studio's. My money goes to other games now.
Maybe when they start thinking like GAME DESIGNERS, with a concern for game balance, I might come back to playing STO. But I continue to see that the KDF faction is not recieving the ship types and lay outs to be competitive in PvP play (even if they are stuck with using existing art work) in spite of KDF players damd near getting on their knees and begging for some attention in that department.

KDF players are interested in KLINGON and KLINGON ALLIED content. They want ships that are better then what they have.. the Faction has gotten NO ships since the Bort, and some fleet ships.. but there are distinct bugs with ship skins and customization. The Faction wants more character costumes variety (just because!) progress there make geologic age look fast! There are also several outstanding costume bugs that have been in the game since launch. Persistant territorial PvP on an epic scale has been asked for since launch. Apparent progress has been somewhat south of nill. (asked by both main factions I might add)

I've gotten more and more critical of STO over the years to the point I just don't enjoy playing it anymore.

Disenchated just doesnt begin to say it.

I'll keep checking in once in a while. And I will log in and play the game when they pop the new season out. But its going to be awhile untill Cryptic gets any more money from me.

Now back to playing MMO's I actually enjoy..

Pachem!

Khemaraa Iron Hand sends.
Release 8.5 "STO The Next Generation"

Let the happy old bug stomping commence, along with refinement toward enhancing each factions play experience!
Captain
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# 26
10-04-2013, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by oldkhemaraa View Post
*Waves*. Ben of playing A*I*O*N (for my fantasy fix..which I'd spell as one word but aparrently there is such a strong bit of pettyness on the part of Cryptic studio's that your not allowed to mention that product on the STO forums) and TOR (which is way way better then I thought it was!)
I didn't bother to read what you posted beyond this, as I always know what you're writing on these forum, anyway, but I did want to address this. PW owns the forum, not Cryptic, so stop blaming them for not being able to write A.ION. It has nothing to do with Cryptic Studios.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Captain
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# 27
10-04-2013, 01:21 PM
I guess I could just name my ship that instead of the title. My KDF characters spend much more time in space then on ground maps anyway, usually seen right outside kerrat when not in there.
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# 28
10-04-2013, 02:19 PM
Qa'pla! I too have lost that feel for STO. If not for my lifer bought in good faith that Cryptic would enrich the whole game, I would not play at all.
Its sad. A great opportunity not given the riegns to run.
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# 29
10-05-2013, 05:43 AM
I mean look what just happened. And people still wonder why we're 'disenchanted'. It truly is a sad state of the matter.

I'm also sorry that I haven't seen the original OP of this thread around here in quite a while. It seems that he, as many other KDF players, just got fed up with it all and hanged his bat'leth on the wall.
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# 30
10-10-2013, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by shpoks View Post
I mean look what just happened. And people still wonder why we're 'disenchanted'. It truly is a sad state of the matter.

I'm also sorry that I haven't seen the original OP of this thread around here in quite a while. It seems that he, as many other KDF players, just got fed up with it all and hanged his bat'leth on the wall.
When you say OP, do you mean the first thread's OP, or this one? Bubbly is still around...
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