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# 81
10-15-2013, 05:35 PM
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You know the funny thing is.... In the IP(somewhere between TOS and TNG)... I could see a Fed Captain pleading this case to the UFP armada about needing new ships to combat the Klingon's military might....
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And a Starfleet committee determined that because of retirements, deaths and the increasing demands of the Klingon war, Starfleet faced a severe shortage of qualified command personnel.
I would say the Federation has been in a pretty bad shape, it just gets ignored by the devs
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# 82
10-15-2013, 05:53 PM
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I would say the Federation has been in a pretty bad shape, it just gets ignored by the devs
Good thing the Ferengi Consortium came along and rescued them, huh?
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# 83
10-15-2013, 08:19 PM
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Good thing the Ferengi Consortium came along and rescued them, huh?
"Rescued"

I don?t think the Federation will like to see the checks once they start rolling in.

They?ll probably have an open vote to surrender to the Klingons to get out of their debt. Which will win in a landslide victory with over 80% approval to the plan
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# 84
10-15-2013, 10:12 PM
I hereby express my support for this thread!
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# 85
10-16-2013, 02:03 AM
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Sorry to break it down to u PvE player, but ur points are highly flawed.
Mmm I'm mainly a PvP player and I'm pretty sur a lot of you guys met me in some arena and cap&hold... so ...

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Funny how u mention ''Nothing for the other right? Fellas'' maybe u should go on the Fed threads and say that. again How many C-store stuff came out for the KDF in the past year compare to the Fed and Romulans C-store stuff?

KDF players are asking for more of a balance, NOT ''we want more this and that than the Feds'' which is something u try to stir up.
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#2. They only added a few exculsive featured episodes during 3 years that KDF players have asked for them, but only at the time when they made the Romulan Expansion they came out pre-level 20 missions for KDF. also i don't see any KDF players complaining about adding more Foundry missions or Event's since ANYONE can use them.
Funny, you just told me that this is not about having exclusive KDF content but you complain about the lake of exclusive KDF content... seems a little bit confuse to me. It has always been the point of those complain : jealousy. We had a lot of Tier 5 starship since the begin of the game (and the recents lock box, event and season give us a lot more choice with fleet ship, temporals, etc... of cours, most of them are not KDF only, so... I see your point :p ).

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Maybe next time u post, u should look up what KDF players are acutally posting about b4 u starting posting nonsense that does not relate to the topic.
I might be wrong, but this post is about how much KDF player feel disenchented, I feel not so I guess my post is 100% related to the topic, if not, maybe you should advice people that only post of disenchanted ppl are allowed here.
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# 86
10-16-2013, 03:21 AM
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thats funny because if half of yall bother to watch the shows, youll find that theres plenty of non-human captains.
no limits of the show are being broken.
You don't know what I mean do you? I am talking about the main cast because that was the focus of the shows.
You want things to be in the shows, look at the shows' credits.
That would be Hunter as Pike, Shatner as Kirk, Stewart as Picard, Brooks as Sisko, Mulgrew as Janeway and Backula as Archer. Which one of these was not human?
Also, the number of non-human Starfleet captains was lower than that of Klingons captains we see in the shows.

Oh, BTW this is not a TV show. So why compare it to a TV show when it actually makes more sense to compare it to other computer games with more than one faction. Like the SFC series, the Armada series or "Birth of the Federation"...in which of these does the Federation have roughly as many different ships as the other sides put together? None. What a shocker.

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# 87
10-16-2013, 04:39 AM
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Funny, you just told me that this is not about having exclusive KDF content but you complain about the lake of exclusive KDF content... seems a little bit confuse to me. It has always been the point of those complain : jealousy. We had a lot of Tier 5 starship since the begin of the game (and the recents lock box, event and season give us a lot more choice with fleet ship, temporals, etc... of cours, most of them are not KDF only, so... I see your point :p ).



I might be wrong, but this post is about how much KDF player feel disenchented, I feel not so I guess my post is 100% related to the topic, if not, maybe you should advice people that only post of disenchanted ppl are allowed here.
You are, of course, welcome to not feel Disenchanted. And I'm glad that you're not. Really. But you are in a minority of a minority here.

Of all the posts here, you choose to latch onto the one which gives you ammunition instead of those which cogently state why they are Disenchanted. Funny, that.
Try starting from the beginning... and by that I mean the original Disenchanted thread and then this one. See where the players who were, and still are, Disenchanted are coming from. Some of us are happier with things now than we have been for a long time, but we remain saddened by what seems a real lack of attention overall to the KDF.

Yes, many of us would like more attention paid to the rehashed (originally Fed only) missions that have been added to the KDF mission list. Being called a Federation captain when you are a Gorn, Lethean, Klingon or Orion is a little annoying. Admittedly, this is minor, but surely it should be a minor fix also. You have 2 Security Officers standing next to each other on DS9 and they know a Klingon captain when they see one...
Many of us are overjoyed by the new Klingon tutorial, but some see it as 3 years too late. I see their point, but a positive change is just that... positive.

Are we asking for more content? Yes. Are the Feds asking for more content? Yes, also. Are we less entitled to want more endgame, STFs and fun missions in general than Fed/Rom players? Nope. Are we more entitled? Nope, again. But we can ask all the same.

Would we like more C-Store ships? You bet your fur we do. We want the new KDF ship the devs have said is 1/2 finished already (but were too busy doing Voth ships to finish, despite finding time to do the "new avenger" for the Feds ). We want the K'Vort (TNGs most prolific Klingon ship until the Vor'cha came along). We want a 5 fore-weapon slot ship (feds have 2 (4 if you count a 3 pack separately, which I don't) we have the Bortas'qu... yeah, thanks for that Cryptic ). We want a 5 tac-console ship too please. And maybe a science ship we can shield-tank in, like the feds. What about a Ferasan answer to the Caitian Atrox? We want to buy these things, so we're not asking for handouts.

And what about C-store costumes? How many do the Feds have? Count them. Seriously, count them. Now do the same for the Romulans. Now do the same for the Klingons. Now recount the Klingon one again. How many do the KDF have again? And no off-duty costume options either.

I love playing my KDF characters more than my Fed ones. I will roll all future Romulans/Remans to be KDF also (I have one fed/rom and it's boring, to me). I love our tutorial. I love the ships we have (mostly, Marauder, I'm looking at you, you fat lump ).

As I said in my earlier posts, I remain Disenchanted. Hopeful, and expectant, but Disenchanted. I have that right. As you have your right to be content with what you have.
You can choose to participate with Disenchantment, or constructively point out the good we have, but picking holes in the posts of others is hardly constructive.
You incorrectly assume jealousy as our motive. We do not want Fed Escorts. We do not want tuxedos (well, one or too do but they want a top-hat and monocle for their Gorn too). Not jealousy as we don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while. Jealousy? Nope. Sorry, poor choice of words. It is not always the point of those who complain. A doctor sews a sponge in you by mistake during surgery? You complain out of malpractice and pain, not jealousy. You trip over a kerb, you complain to the council out of anger and concern, not jealousy. You see someone being sold something, you would like to buy something similar in a different flavour/colour but the vendor says there isn't any money in doing that for you... discrimination, not jealousy.

We want exclusive KDF content, yes, but you choose to read that as missions... many of us see that as ships, costumes, weapon consoles, being referred to as a KDF captain in missions (see also Romulan captains complaining when Romulan NPCs refer to them as Federation captains regardless of which alliance they chose, KDF or Fed) and so many little things.

As I said, I am glad you are happy/content, but our peaceful protest is for those of us who are not. We choose to wear the title, but we're not forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to do, that would be counter-productive. But when in game now, you may see the title and wonder... "Is that player Disenchanted with the state of the KDF or just proud of gaining that accolade?" It gets you thinking. And that's what we hope to achieve from the devs when they go in game to Qo'nos and see so many of us... "Are they really so Disenchanted? I wonder why that is?"

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# 88
10-16-2013, 06:40 AM
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[SNIP] for length.
Very well said. A very good post. I completely agree, couldn't have said it better myself from A to Z.
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# 89
10-16-2013, 07:24 AM
Everything Drowrulessupreme says with a bag of chips.
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# 90
10-16-2013, 09:00 AM
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We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent and passionate belief that enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
This... In Neon Lights, this.... It is Disenchanted Sig-Worthy.
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