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# 261
10-16-2013, 08:49 PM
Just because you can do it...just because you think it's "cool"...just because you want to do it...all does not mean you should.

I find it all very interesting how polarized this community has become on what and how Cryptic introduces things to the game. Me, I could care less at this point what they do. I have basically moved on...

Neglecting PvP endgame
Neglecting Exploration
Neglecting Crafting
Neglecting the Foundry
Neglecting long standing bugs
Neglecting a real endgame

I mean, imposing monotonous grinds on limited content for fleet star bases and personal reputation that grant you gear to do those missions you just did a little bit better as endgame??

All the flashy new ships, all the new enemy groups, all the new one-off missions, pretty zones and artwork are pretty much not going to be able to make up for poor game systems.

So again, instead of a PvP endgame, repeatable fun exploration endgame, or a real crafting system...we are going to get dinosaurs with lasers and another reputation and fleet holding to grind. I mean when it is put in that perspective...
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# 262
10-16-2013, 08:55 PM
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Lol, yea... Starfleet bio engineered a giant catdog stuck a laser on it and sent it off to fight Dominion ground troops .
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# 263
10-16-2013, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by commodoreshrvk View Post
Just because you can do it...just because you think it's "cool"...just because you want to do it...all does not mean you should.

I find it all very interesting how polarized this community has become on what and how Cryptic introduces things to the game. Me, I could care less at this point what they do. I have basically moved on...

Neglecting PvP endgame
Neglecting Exploration
Neglecting Crafting
Neglecting the Foundry
Neglecting long standing bugs
Neglecting a real endgame

I mean, imposing monotonous grinds on limited content for fleet star bases and personal reputation that grant you gear to do those missions you just did a little bit better as endgame??

All the flashy new ships, all the new enemy groups, all the new one-off missions, pretty zones and artwork are pretty much not going to be able to make up for poor game systems.

So again, instead of a PvP endgame, repeatable fun exploration endgame, or a real crafting system...we are going to get dinosaurs with lasers and another reputation and fleet holding to grind. I mean when it is put in that perspective...
*nods in agreement*

*bangs her head into the wall numerous times*

If I keep banging my head a million times over, do you think I can fool myself into thinking that its a fun activity?

rofl...

*unlocks a lockbox and claims prize*

Hey! I just got a helmet that absorbs only 2% of the impact.

I am winning! Yahoo!!!

...and, that is called an 'epic fail'.

Last edited by linyive; 10-16-2013 at 09:03 PM.
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# 264
10-16-2013, 08:57 PM
Ok people, this dinosaurs are little too much.
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# 265
10-16-2013, 09:07 PM
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*nods*

Ironically I will be upgrading my system to Windows 8.1 on Thursday; therefore, "Star Trek: Online" will be automatically uninstalled during the process. When I saw the article with the armored dinosaurs, the last of my passion for "Star Trek: Online" faded into oblivion. I have become disillusioned by the endless grinding, high requirements needed for buying gear, 20 hour long cool down timers, etc... Since my attention has been waning for some time, I forgot when I last had fun in "Star Trek: Online". Cryptic adding dinos in space is making me cringe.

Even though some episodes of "Star Trek: TOS" contained weird species, the reality is that they didn't necessarily work out well. I think many of the other "Star Trek" series also contained hit or miss concepts. When something won over the fan base, the writers would bring the concept back again. Out of all the species that were created, the Vulcans, Klingons, and Romulans were the only ones that made it to "The Next Generation" era. We never saw the Andorians, Tholians, Gorn, and Abraham Lincoln ever again.

...and, that is also why "Star Trek" should not have been rebooted.

What can I say? I hate the dinos.


All I can say is dinos should be the least of everyones worry with bugships galors timeships breen ships and every other ship a Klingon Or Federation Officer shouldn't be using lol.

Fix those before we worry about real or imagined problems with the voth Fix the factions so the Romulans can have a real full faction not a vassal ally system fix the Klingons since they need more ships and missions, heck give the cardassian fans a faction they can be proud of, learn from the large successes and large mistakes from legacy of Romulus.

I shall conclude with this call to arms.


Allons-y!
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# 266
10-16-2013, 09:09 PM
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before I begin, I would just like to say that anything I write is entirely my own opinion. You're welcome (and encouraged) to disagree with me, but trolling and pointless insults will be ignored;

Firstly, did i miss something? wasn't there a poll about with VOY species we'd like to see, and didn't the krenim win it, was there a voth win I didn't notice? Or did Cryptic/PWE ask our advice/suggestions then just ignore it.
I also wondered what happened to this poll that the Krenim won. http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=835111

What's funny is they posted what episode the Voth were in.
So I watched it and couldn't understand how you could add them to the game as a villain.
They didn't need armor or lasers on their head to render Voyager completely impotent.
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# 267
10-16-2013, 09:09 PM
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Hey! I just got a helmet that absorbs only 2% of the impact.

I am winning! Yahoo!!!
Indeed! Indeed!

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I also wondered what happened to this poll that the Krenim won. http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=835111
Polls mean nothing, just ask a US congressman.

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# 268
10-16-2013, 09:10 PM
You know, I was watching this thread and normally I try to find the middle ground between those with issues with what the Devs do and those that don't...

I find for once I am siding fully with the Devs on this and before anyone questions MY credentials...I am a Die-hard fan of Star Trek. Been so since I was born thanks to my mother. I've been to nearly every movie that has been in the Theaters (Missed II, III, X, and both JJ Treks). I was in Middle School when I went to Undiscovered Country with my parents happily taking me there. I've watched all the series and I read some of the novels. The only bigger Trek fans that could be found that I can name right now is Angry Joe and Linkara.

So take me seriously naysayers when I say this: LEAVE THE DEVS ALONE!

You do not know what they have planned and how they will present The Voth to us in-game nor how their AI will play out or what abilities they have beyond a few with Orbital Strike (which if memory serves has only been a Player-Ability so far). Now we ALL know what that does to NPCs when Engineer Players use it. Now we get to be on the receiving end of that. Playing Defense doesn't necessarily mean they avoid a fight. How this gets presented is what EVERYONE should wait on. But obviously some would rather talk about how they know what Gene would want or what is really Trek.

You want to know what makes Star Trek what it is? World-Building. Whatever can be dreamed up can be put in. So why not Dinosaurs who use larger versions as War-beasts along side Mechas? Why not Omnipotent Beings, Ancient Astronauts, Whale Probes, and roving Cyborg Zombie Apocalypses? None of you who are complaining about this are paid by Cryptic to design what goes into the game or asked by CBS to be the Guardians of Trek.

As I said, I like what is shaping up so far. The ships are wonderful to look at the ideas for Voth Ground Combat mechanics actually gives me concern for facing them and how to do it without getting a Killsat sicced on my Aft. I think we all need to take a step back and wait for more information before we start judging and maybe play it out for ourselves.
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# 269
10-16-2013, 09:12 PM
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The Voth are canon and given the origins of the Voth this is a logically extension of that.
the voth yes but dino's with laser's strapped to their heads is not
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# 270
10-16-2013, 09:14 PM
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I also wondered what happened to this poll that the Krenim won. http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=835111
What's funny is that the Voth weren't even a choice let alone a winner. But here we are...
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