Rihannsu
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# 21
10-22-2013, 04:56 AM
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If the Preservers were really THAT peaceful they wouldn't have a concept of what weapons are. But clearly they do. Obviously they don't like to use them, but they doesn't prevent them from having them.
You have no evidence they haven them, this is like the Organians having a standing military just because they know what it means.

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It also doesn't make them a militarized race.
Carrier with drone ships ... yep, not militarized ...

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You'd have to be kinda stupid to not have at least a token defense against invasions. Let's face it... someone or something wiped out the Preservers. they didn't just die of boredom...
To start, invasion by who? they clearly were well beyond the technological level of all other races they were on contact with, this is like you arming yourself against Dolphins because we never know do we? After all Dolphins are in fact known rapists ...

Also the amusing thing is you never even bothered to check were the Preservers were mentioned from, the only source is the TOS Episode "The Paradise Syndrome" and what we see in the Breen FE is actually taken from that episode.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_..._%28episode%29

Now I point out to The Obelisk that did not destroy the asteroid but acted as a deflector and push it away, this is a far cry from destroying it.

Also who said they were wiped out? they were old, ancient ... you think the Q were always the Q Continuum as we seen in TNG? they likely simply moved beyond mortal existence and there no evidence they were even native to the Milky Way Galaxy to begin with.

You know what annoys me .. inability to create.

As much people might not like the Defari at least they are new, too much on existing IPs is just using the exact same concepts, species and races and attempt to unify and connect everything without creating anything, just a endless recycling ... one thing is adding something that existed to the game without twisting it so it "fits" that what you are asking, you want the Preservers into having ships and weapons because you want to use them for a role that they are just not suitable for, a new unknown species works much better as it can be made to fit the role instead of hammering a existing race until it "fits".
Romulans ...
You start your career off as a simple farmer... then you launch yourself into a galaxy filled with intrigue, power plays, and high stakes games of interstellar conflict, as your career careens upwards onto your final destination ... a level capped Dilithium and Fleet Mark Farmer!

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# 22
10-22-2013, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by f2pdrakron View Post
Carrier with drone ships ... yep, not militarized ...
Are you seriously THAT unintelligent? A carrier would be big enough to carry SEVERAL genetics/cryolabs with any number of possible flora and fauna to exist on a planet and a Drone ship to launch the seeds of this life to an infant world and not directly influence the world itself....


Seriously... how is that Militarized?
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# 23
10-22-2013, 06:21 AM
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Seriously... how is that Militarized?
http://puu.sh/4Vy0l.jpg

... Focused Antiproton Array, Transpasic Torpedo, Antiproton Turret, Beam Array Overload III, Attack Pattern Beta I ...


Apparently this "unintelligent" person is not illiterate but do go on, explain how Attack Pattern Beta is used to launch seeds or do you think what? that the Obelisk Swarmers would not be armed?

Oh and I believe that answers the question about the FE ... Obelisk Swarmers/Idran Swarmers


http://sto.gamepedia.com/Idran_Swarmer
Romulans ...
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# 24
10-22-2013, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by f2pdrakron View Post
http://puu.sh/4Vy0l.jpg

... Focused Antiproton Array, Transpasic Torpedo, Antiproton Turret, Beam Array Overload III, Attack Pattern Beta I ...


Apparently this "unintelligent" person is not illiterate but do go on, explain how Attack Pattern Beta is used to launch seeds or do you think what? that the Obelisk Swarmers would not be armed?

Oh and I believe that answers the question about the FE ... Obelisk Swarmers/Idran Swarmers


http://sto.gamepedia.com/Idran_Swarmer
2 things....

1. The carrier has been weaponized by the Coalition, not the Preservers.

2. Saying anything preserver is outright militarized is like saying the Galaxy Class was always a warship....
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# 25
10-22-2013, 06:43 AM
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2 things....

1. The carrier has been weaponized by the Coalition, not the Preservers.
I have no idea were you are pulling that off from.

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2. Saying anything preserver is outright militarized is like saying the Galaxy Class was always a warship....
It was, unless you re going to say a armed ship is not considered to be a warship .. it was certainly not a freighter.
Romulans ...
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# 26
10-22-2013, 10:09 AM
Cryptic writers screwed up that whole TNG "The Chase" Progenitor humanoids and the Preservers from TOS. The Progenitors seeded the primordial oceans of the galaxy. Meaning billions of years ago. Then disappeared. The Preservers brought native americans to that planet maybe a few thousand years before. How can they be the same species.

The same way they combined the "Schism" aliens with the mushroom guys from Enterprise.
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# 27
10-22-2013, 10:22 AM
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Cryptic writers screwed up that whole TNG "The Chase" Progenitor humanoids and the Preservers from TOS.
Cryptic didn't "screw up." They intentionally merges the two groups into one coherent species - something that was originally considered by Ron Moore, the writer of The Chase.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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# 28
10-22-2013, 10:28 AM
I think you guys are forgetting something, it is Cryptic that has made the preservers build that carrier.

Like the Voth, cryptic have decided to pluck some random race that they think would fit to be the lastest bad guys, regardless of canon....

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# 29
10-22-2013, 10:36 AM
What if the Preservers are the Iconians, but from two different time periods?
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# 30
10-22-2013, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by thecosmic1 View Post
Cryptic didn't "screw up." They intentionally merges the two groups into one coherent species - something that was originally considered by Ron Moore, the writer of The Chase.
Considered and rejected because it didn't make sense. But here comes Cryptic thinking otherwise.
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