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# 11
10-21-2013, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by varnoukh View Post
I've made the point myself several times that tac ships are better for solo'ing and I wouldn't be surprised if demand for them is higher. But Romulans don't have just a few tac ships. We have lots and lots but only one sci ship (excluding the very expensive temporal).

Seriously, I prefer the sci profession and flying sci vessels, and find if I don't take one into STFs they can be more painful if no other sci ship turns up, but my options are... well non-existent. It's ha'nom or mirror ha'nom.

Sidetracking a little, do players actually fly the Tulwar and Falchion? I don't quite get the point of tac vessels with sci/eng'ish console layouts. If they're not going to release full sets of equivalent sci and eng vessels (understandable if demand is low and / or the scimi's didn't sell too well) I think they should consider making the Tulwar and Falchion proper sci and eng ships with sci / eng commander stations. I'm not a fan of their appearance but I'd at least then consider buying those.



That's a small ray of sunshine at least but also confirms my suspicion that a romulan sci carrier isn't currently on the table.
I fly a Falchion...but that's because I don't want to fly a beam whale in a game where it's easy enough to get top dps without the most optimal(And boring in my opinion) specs.

Back on topic, just because we haven't gotten a full carrier doesn't mean we aren't going to get one! Cryptic released the Ar'Kif to fit two things people wanted...quad plasma cannons and a t4 escort like ship. People might complain that it's another tac ship but people were also complaining about the t4 D'Deridex.

Then they added the hangar because the ship wasn't doing to well, so not having a fleet version and having a hangar they decided she would be a good fit with the new holding. Why not since she doesn't have a fleet version?
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# 12
10-21-2013, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by varnoukh View Post
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=878941

Spire Tier 3

Fleet Kar'fi Battle Carrier - KDF Only
Fleet Caitian Atrox Carrier - Starfleet Only
Fleet Ar'Kif Tactical Warbird Retrofit - Romulan Republic Only
Should we interpret the above as an indication that Romulans won't get a sci carrier, like their Fed and KDF counterparts?
I think it is interesting that you found this but apparently completely blanked on:

Spire Tier 1

Obelisk Carrier.


While its not specifically romulan, it should certainly be a stop-gap.
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# 13
10-21-2013, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by originpi View Post
While its not specifically romulan, it should certainly be a stop-gap.
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So are the Recluse and JHDC, do you REALLY need for me to explain were the problem lies on using Warp Core ships?
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# 14
10-21-2013, 05:56 PM
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Back on topic, just because we haven't gotten a full carrier doesn't mean we aren't going to get one!
Previous page - a dev has said the next Romulan ship will probably be a sci but there's currently no plans for a Romulan carrier, and there are other ships to be made before the rom sci.

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I think it is interesting that you found this but apparently completely blanked on:

Spire Tier 1

Obelisk Carrier.
Do I need to wear special glasses or smoke something to see this?

I've ctrl-F'ed obelisk and carrier. Not there. I look at Spire Tier 1 and it's.... well blank. Literally.
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# 15
10-22-2013, 08:55 AM
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So are the Recluse and JHDC, do you REALLY need for me to explain were the problem lies on using Warp Core ships?
Apparently yes. Though I assume it is some latent RP reason or personal taste. As that is the case, I don't think it is reasonable to blame cryptic for not catering to your very specific requirements.

Not to mention your arguement makes no sense if you refuse to pilot a non-romulan ship but suggest that a Caitian ship is enough carrier for the Federation.

From a gameplay perspective, anyone who wants to effectively use science powers as well as still contribute damage will likely prefer (or simply do better with) a warp core ship over singularity. The power difference of 50+ makes a very big difference when you want 4 high power levels.

Singularity cores provide fun and excellent powers to ships that do not otherwise get them, but science ships already get access to somewhat similar, yet more effective, powers.

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# 16
10-22-2013, 09:00 AM
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Do I need to wear special glasses or smoke something to see this?

I've ctrl-F'ed obelisk and carrier. Not there. I look at Spire Tier 1 and it's.... well blank. Literally.
http://i.imgur.com/lbDpESv.jpg

Seems pretty obvious to me. Unless its been further illuminated, I think the general consensus is that the Obelisk will be a limited time free benefit for completing Sphere of Influence, and thereafter (yunno, after the "limited time") will be available through T1 Spire.
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# 17
10-22-2013, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by varnoukh View Post
Previous page - a dev has said the next Romulan ship will probably be a sci but there's currently no plans for a Romulan carrier, and there are other ships to be made before the rom sci.



Do I need to wear special glasses or smoke something to see this?

I've ctrl-F'ed obelisk and carrier. Not there. I look at Spire Tier 1 and it's.... well blank. Literally.
Plans change all the time, things get made that weren't planned announced a half year ago and things that were aren't made.

http://www.stoacademy.com/blog/index..._ships_for_sto

That blog was response to I believe it was a ask cryptic...now those ships were planned but have we seen any of them? Do you think they're going to release 4-5 new ships (Most of them Fed exclusive) in 2 and a half months, especially with working on season 8?

Plans come and go...some delayed and some might never see the light of day. If there is anything I've learned in the years I've played STO, that just like ship stats, plans are subject change.
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# 18
10-22-2013, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by originpi View Post
http://i.imgur.com/lbDpESv.jpg

Seems pretty obvious to me. Unless its been further illuminated, I think the general consensus is that the Obelisk will be a limited time free benefit for completing Sphere of Influence, and thereafter (yunno, after the "limited time") will be available through T1 Spire.
*boggles*

Did you previously email me this image? Cos otherwise I'm not sure how you think I "blanked" on it.

Having googled it now though, I don't see a consensus. I see a lot of people thinking this isn't a consumable summoned ship rather than a playable one.

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Plans change all the time, things get made that weren't planned announced a half year ago and things that were aren't made.
That's the other way around though. Some stuff not getting done is to be expected in almost any endeavour. But this was (I think) a relatively recent dev statement specifically saying there are no current plans to make a rom sci carrier.
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# 19
10-22-2013, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by varnoukh View Post
*boggles*

Did you previously email me this image? Cos otherwise I'm not sure how you think I "blanked" on it.

Having googled it now though, I don't see a consensus. I see a lot of people thinking this isn't a consumable summoned ship rather than a playable one.



That's the other way around though. Some stuff not getting done is to be expected in almost any endeavour. But this was (I think) a relatively recent dev statement specifically saying there are no current plans to make a rom sci carrier.
I'm sorry if I somehow upset you. I just mean it seemed oubvious to someone who has clearly seen the Spire (like the OP, who commented on the T3 ships). Also, the (All) after carrier mirrors the (Faction) labels after the T3 carriers. Not to mention Obelisk Swarmers (Blue, Purple and UV) are available as hanger pets.

All roads point to flyable carrier. Also, the Devs quite explicitly said they would be giving us a carrier, made by aliens but NOT voth. Assuredly it belongs to the race that built or lived on the sphere.
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# 20
10-22-2013, 10:03 PM
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I'm sorry if I somehow upset you. I just mean it seemed oubvious to someone who has clearly seen the Spire (like the OP, who commented on the T3 ships).
Not upset. Just puzzled.

FYI I am the OP and no I have not seen the spire. What I've seen is exactly what I posted in the OP - Tribble release notes about it in which no mention is made of the obelisk carrier.

I could see merit in developing more non-faction ships. The present faction imbalance means the most cost effective use of their time will be to primarily make Fed ships which will make new players more inclined to choose that faction and worsen the imbalance.

Ships which anyone can buy would get around that. I would hope though that we could apply faction skins or alterations to them.
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