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# 11
10-25-2013, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by aurigas7 View Post
And the Koloth is a variant of the B'rel. The fleet Tor'kaht has a completely different boff layout compared to a Vor'cha. Which in STO terms means it is a different ship.
The only still existing connection between both ships is the interchangeability of parts.

The same I would like to have for my triple pack. Different ships, interchangeability of skins.
So your saying the Fleet Regent is not the same ship as the Sovereign? What about the Ha'apax and the Fleet Ha'apax/Haakona? Are you saying that the Fleet Patrol (Hermes/Dervish/Gryphon/Maelstrom) is different from the T5 Patrol Escort? Or how about the Fleet Yamaguchi comapired to the Ambassador? And the Fleet Promethius compaired to the T5 RA Promethius? What about the Negh'Var and the Fleet Qu'Daj?

What criteria are you using to define different ships? If you are using BOFF/Console layouts, then names are meaningless; you use technical terms (Heavy Escort, Fleet Escort Refit, Support Cruiser, Long Range Science Vessle, etc.) If you are talking names, then ships with similar base stats, but different BOFF/Console layouts are infact the same ships with different configurations. You have NOT made your case. You merely dodge the question by making a false argument out of nothing.
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# 12
10-25-2013, 09:33 PM
Make all new ship then... Claim them as the product of the new stronger KDF shipyards constructed to battle the new foes threatening the Empire.
That covers the klingon fans.
Then create new ships for the other KDF faction races like the missing Orion, Gorn, Nausican, leathean, Ferasin and even alien ships.
We have NPC examples of ships ingame that could be ported over for the Gorn and Nausicans. The Devs could create a Ferasin heavy attack carrier or a Leathean escort.
They are only stopped by themselves.
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# 13
10-26-2013, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by davidwford View Post
So your saying the Fleet Regent is not the same ship as the Sovereign? What about the Ha'apax and the Fleet Ha'apax/Haakona? Are you saying that the Fleet Patrol (Hermes/Dervish/Gryphon/Maelstrom) is different from the T5 Patrol Escort? Or how about the Fleet Yamaguchi comapired to the Ambassador? And the Fleet Promethius compaired to the T5 RA Promethius? What about the Negh'Var and the Fleet Qu'Daj?

What criteria are you using to define different ships? If you are using BOFF/Console layouts, then names are meaningless; you use technical terms (Heavy Escort, Fleet Escort Refit, Support Cruiser, Long Range Science Vessle, etc.) If you are talking names, then ships with similar base stats, but different BOFF/Console layouts are infact the same ships with different configurations. You have NOT made your case. You merely dodge the question by making a false argument out of nothing.
I have to find a way to get around the already taken name Koloth. And there is a precedent, I want to follow.

And no, I don't want to replace the B'rel refit. The Tor'kaht once was just a mere skin option for the Vor'cha. Now it is a ship with it's very own stats.

Same here: remove the Koloth as skin option from T1, and add it as "related", fully fleshed out ship at T5.

And if you have bought the B'Rotlh, too, you can happily mix and match your skins as you please.
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# 14
10-26-2013, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by aurigas7 View Post
And no, I don't want to replace the B'rel refit. The Tor'kaht once was just a mere skin option for the Vor'cha. Now it is a ship with it's very own stats.
ERRMMM, nope it isn't. It's still a skin for the Vor'cha, but since it was removed from the C-Store it's now unlocked with the Fleet Vor'cha. They are NOT two seperate ships, they are still just different skins for the same ship.
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# 15
10-26-2013, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by misterde3 View Post
ERRMMM, nope it isn't. It's still a skin for the Vor'cha, but since it was removed from the C-Store it's now unlocked with the Fleet Vor'cha. They are NOT two seperate ships, they are still just different skins for the same ship.
Thank you.

And for the record, it is still listed as a purchased ship costume for those who got it before they removed it from the C-Store. I don't have the Fleet Varient on my character, but I still have access to the skin.
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