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# 31
10-28-2013, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by whamhammer1 View Post
You mean, once the KDF faction is completed right???
NOW you're just being unreasonable, you know damn well that it's too much work to finish the Klingons, especially when there's "Dinosaurs with Lazers on their heads!!" to make...or tribbles, or new FEd stuff...or, y'know, washing their hair, changing the cat-box...sleeping...going on dates...drinking beer and watching football...nail-trimming...sorting the paperclips on the desk for the thousandth time...personal phone calls...
"when you're out of Birds of Prey, you're out of ships."
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# 32
10-28-2013, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lostusthorn View Post
just have the kdf force the federation to capitulation, expunge the undine infiltrators. done. Problem solved.
The Undine are not the real enemy and killing them would only enrage them more. They are largely shown to be isolationists and do not like others entering their fluidic space. If you pay attention in the Undine missions and read all the in-game lore that relates to them, you see that they are only acting in self-defence and responding to the threat that they perceive from the Alpha Quadrant powers. This reaction is somewhat misguided as the Alpha Quadrant powers are not the ones that were attacking them as if you remember, there was an Iconian gateway on one of their worlds.
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# 33
10-28-2013, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by zebramaniii View Post
The Undine are not the real enemy and killing them would only enrage them more. They are largely shown to be isolationists and do not like others entering their fluidic space. If you pay attention in the Undine missions and read all the in-game lore that relates to them, you see that they are only acting in self-defence and responding to the threat that they perceive from the Alpha Quadrant powers. This reaction is somewhat misguided as the Alpha Quadrant powers are not the ones that were attacking them as if you remember, there was an Iconian gateway on one of their worlds.
The Undine started the whole damn thing by subverting governments in the alpha quadrant. review "Path to 2409" and if necessary, roll a new Feddie and re-play the first (was it twenty?) missions.

The Klingon Empire recognized and acted on this infiltration threat-both internally, and when they realized the Undine had effectively turned the Gorn into sockpuppets.

That's what started the whole thing.

It's the whole casus belli of the entire Federation/Klingon war: we're going to beat the Federation until they realize there's something WRONG.

as for the final Undine missions-they're a bad joke. Especially for a Klingon-they are merely lame for Feds, but for KDF it's so far out of character as to be unworthy of a holonovel, and the so-called 'resolution' published in the magazine?

bull****.

You don't seek an alliance with your prey. The hunter doesn't ally with the fox to kill chickens.

The Iconians may have been the kickstarter for the Undine's actions, but the Undine still TOOK those actions. i.e. it's an excuse, not a reason.
"when you're out of Birds of Prey, you're out of ships."

Last edited by patrickngo; 10-28-2013 at 11:51 AM.
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# 34
10-28-2013, 02:19 PM
As these Klingon Intelligence photos show the federation is clearly working with the Undine in their play to take over the alpha quadrant, letting freely exposed Undine wonder the halls of ESD who would have thought.

KI Photo 1
KI Photo 2
KI Photo 3
As well as this shot just captured that shows the Undine are working with the Fel'kir also apparently.

KI Photo 4


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# 35
11-04-2013, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
I never said that the RSA was not a pet faction. It very much is. It deserves its on faction and the KDF deserves to retain its own.
Agreed wholeheartedly on both points. To be honest the signt of Romulans on Qo'nos or Esd, Or Kdf or Fed on New Romulus is very meh to me but whats done is done.
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