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# 31
11-04-2013, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mll623 View Post
The federation not having a frigate pet is a faction specific drawback intended during development - the KDF was always intended to have better carriers while the Federation has more (and better) science vessels.

If the federation would get frigate pets, they would have to be a Aquarius destroyers, nerfed down to the proper firepower. Even those are a bit too large (they have 50 crew while BoPs have 30 at most).

What I would like to see would be DPS oriented runabouts. Take the danubes, remove the tractor beam and add another beam array.

Example:

Amazon (River theme?) Runabouts

2 Phaser Beam Arrays
Photon Torpedoes
Torpedo Spread 1
Attack Pattern Omega 1

Advanced Amazon Runabouts

2 Phaser Beam Arrays
Quantum Torpedoes
Torpedo Spread 2
Attack Pattern Omega 2

Elite Amazon Runabouts

2 Phaser Beam Arrays
Quantum Torpedoes
Torpedo Spread 3
Attack Pattern Omega 3

They would have about the same HP as Danubes - more then fighters or shuttles but less then BoPs. Their beam and torpedo damage would be scaled to give them similar DPS to the damage oriented BoP and Fighter pets that currently exist, but more then current runabouts. The federation would not have the unique frigate pets (with their high survivability) but would still be able to keep up damage-wise using a pet tougher then a fighter.
The gap between the Federation carriers and KDF carriers is nothing compared to the gap between Federation science ships and the KDF science ship (singular). We have ONE bloody science ship, and it's got a pitiful shield mod compared to Federation science ships (Fleet Varanus is 1.32 while all Federation science ships are 1.43). KDF would need at least 2-3 more science ship varieties to start closing that ridiculously unfair gap.

The Federation has a good full carrier and two hybrid carriers that are of more utility than the useless flight-deck cruisers the KDF has, and has a full brace of pets to use. The only thing the Federation really lacks carrier-wise is an equivalent to the Kar'fi and some frigate pets, and they've been stamping their feet regularly for the frigate pets.

On a parting note, a similar gap exists with escorts, as well. KDF has 1 C-Store destroyer, 2 Fleet Raptors, and 1 Fleet Destroyer. Federation has 5 C-Store escorts (including the Andorian 3-pack as one ship) and 6 Fleet escorts. More than double what the KDF has in options, and the KDF options are even all good, because the Qin is still borked.

And Feddies have the nerve to keep sticking their hands out demanding new shiny toys to buy. If the faction as a whole were even remotely interested in faction parity, every single Feddie would be demanding that the KDF get all development resources for 6 months to further close this ridiculous gap.
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# 32
11-04-2013, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by peetapipmac View Post
Erm... is it just me or are the posts in this thread showing up in the wrong order?
One of the mods merged two threads about the same subject. Posts tend to get jumbled like that as a result, because it's all in chronological order.
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# 33
11-04-2013, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by timezarg View Post
The gap between the Federation carriers and KDF carriers is nothing compared to the gap between Federation science ships and the KDF science ship (singular). We have ONE bloody science ship, and it's got a pitiful shield mod compared to Federation science ships (Fleet Varanus is 1.32 while all Federation science ships are 1.43). KDF would need at least 2-3 more science ship varieties to start closing that ridiculously unfair gap.

The Federation has a good full carrier and two hybrid carriers that are of more utility than the useless flight-deck cruisers the KDF has, and has a full brace of pets to use. The only thing the Federation really lacks carrier-wise is an equivalent to the Kar'fi and some frigate pets, and they've been stamping their feet regularly for the frigate pets.

On a parting note, a similar gap exists with escorts, as well. KDF has 1 C-Store destroyer, 2 Fleet Raptors, and 1 Fleet Destroyer. Federation has 5 C-Store escorts (including the Andorian 3-pack as one ship) and 6 Fleet escorts. More than double what the KDF has in options, and the KDF options are even all good, because the Qin is still borked.

And Feddies have the nerve to keep sticking their hands out demanding new shiny toys to buy. If the faction as a whole were even remotely interested in faction parity, every single Feddie would be demanding that the KDF get all development resources for 6 months to further close this ridiculous gap.
My romulan science captain feels your pain. 1 "science" ship that is really a warbird. Thank God for Lobi ships.
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# 34
11-04-2013, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by themarie View Post
Done it. And there are more than likely Federation buttheads pushing for moar-war as well. Just saying there needs to be a resolution, not "kiss and make up" but perhaps a cease-fire/return to the way things were TOS/Movies.
Impossible without reworking a ton of KDF content, which I highly doubt Cryptic will do.
We have way too many missions, PvP wrappers, dailies, sorties and the entire marauding doff line designed as the KDF is at war with the Federation. You can't make peace without reworking all of that, or risking it become a terrible joke. There's a reason I couldn't bare to ally a Romulan with the KDF, having the Republic as an ally to the Federation as well it seemed really awkward to attack and destroy Fed. ships, bases, take prisoners etc.
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# 35
11-04-2013, 03:07 PM
I still want a Borg Carrier that launches 5 Tribble of Borg, per hanger, with attached lazer beams that explode in warp plasma when destroyed. -.- Not gonna happen, but one can wish.
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# 36
11-04-2013, 03:51 PM
I always thought it would be cool if the basic Rare Frigate Pet was a Miranda, the Advanced or Very Rare was a Defiant and the Elite or Ultra Rare was a San Paulo.
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# 37
11-04-2013, 05:18 PM
Would love to see these

Rommies get to have 'fake' mirandas and NX with their drone ships when fighting feds!
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