Lieutenant
Join Date: Feb 2013
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It is commonly known that right now Romulans are lacking in the ship options department. While the Romulan faction has a plethora of options for captains seeking an escort playstyle, for those who enjoy cruisers and sci ships there are only two options. If you like cruisers you have the D'deridex or the Scimitar (the Ha'apax cries itself to sleep at night) and if you like sci ships you have the Ha'nom and Temporal vessel.

The cruiser section of the fleet is better equiped, with the D'deridex only being considered bad because the Scimitar is just so good; but both vessels are very, very large cruisers. They more or less fly similarly, as lumbering giant space whales. And this is mostly in terms of their size, since even my D'dex has a turn of 13 normally. What the fleet is lacking are smaller cruisers, ala the Excelsior and Vor'cha, or the new Avenger. They are still firmly cruisers, but are a bit more nimble than their bigger brothers. The Mogai should've filled that role, but right now it's just another escort. A small cruiser type ship would fit like a glove, and hopefully get people to stop whining about the lack of cruiser commands.

As for science vessels, I don't fly them, and I just know sci is in bad spot right now. So it is somewhat understandable the lack of work put into that archetype. Still in an ideal world science will be fixed to be playable, and when that comes the Romulans, and the KDF, will need some more options.
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# 2
11-06-2013, 06:29 AM
Notice how dead the romulan flotilla forums are lately?

Anyways, on topic, I really want to see something designed after the shadow class added as a romulan science vessel.

Here's a few reference pics:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...dow_Armada.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../df/Shadow.jpg
http://www.species1571.pwp.blueyonde...s/image001.gif
http://pcmedia.ign.com/media/preview...ab011_640w.jpg



It's not an overly large vessel, I'd say probably simlar in size (at least length) to the ar'kif or mogai, maybe even smaller. Very similar head section to the d'deridex, but smaller, and a more compact body and wings meant to look more sleek/blade like.

As a 3/3 science vessel it'd work great. I'd probably suggest a Commander Science, Lt science, lt engineer, lt tactical, and lt universal for boff layout - that'd give it a fairly balanced base setup and some ability to customize it more for either support or offense. 2/4/3 console layout, 2/5/3 or 2/4/4 for the fleet version.

A triple pack could work for it as well, with some variance in the wing, head, and hull designs between each of the 3 ships. I'd say maybe even give it a single hangar like the vesta, and introduce some tiercel/kestrel type hangar craft for the romulan faction.

I'd also really like to see aux plasma cannons for it. I'm a big fan of the vesta, and love the aux phasers it has. Perhaps instead of dual cannons, give it aux-powered plasma dual beam banks? In fact I'd go so far as to say that it should be almost a copy of the vesta series, stats-wise: Give it the chroniton integrated quantum slipstream drive, and then 3 unique abilities (one for each variant).
I'd say for the tactical version, a singularity siege weapon similar to the ar'kif (and similar to the deflector phaser cannon for the vesta). For the science version, a phase cloak like the d'ridthau, but perhaps offering increased singularity power generation while active, and for the engineer version a beam-like heal (like hazard emitters) that restores both shields and hull?

Just an idea.

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# 3
11-06-2013, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by telbasta7386 View Post
Notice how dead the romulan flotilla forums are lately?

Anyways, on topic, I really want to see something designed after the shadow class added as a romulan science vessel.

Here's a few reference pics:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...dow_Armada.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../df/Shadow.jpg
http://www.species1571.pwp.blueyonde...s/image001.gif
http://pcmedia.ign.com/media/preview...ab011_640w.jpg



It's not an overly large vessel, I'd say probably simlar in size (at least length) to the ar'kif or mogai, maybe even smaller. Very similar head section to the d'deridex, but smaller, and a more compact body and wings meant to look more sleek/blade like.

As a 3/3 science vessel it'd work great. I'd probably suggest a Commander Science, Lt science, lt engineer, lt tactical, and lt universal for boff layout - that'd give it a fairly balanced base setup and some ability to customize it more for either support or offense. 2/4/3 console layout, 2/5/3 or 2/4/4 for the fleet version.

A triple pack could work for it as well, with some variance in the wing, head, and hull designs between each of the 3 ships. I'd say maybe even give it a single hangar like the vesta, and introduce some tiercel/kestrel type hangar craft for the romulan faction.

I'd also really like to see aux plasma cannons for it. I'm a big fan of the vesta, and love the aux phasers it has. Perhaps instead of dual cannons, give it aux-powered plasma dual beam banks? In fact I'd go so far as to say that it should be almost a copy of the vesta series, stats-wise: Give it the chroniton integrated quantum slipstream drive, and then 3 unique abilities (one for each variant).
I'd say for the tactical version, a singularity siege weapon similar to the ar'kif (and similar to the deflector phaser cannon for the vesta). For the science version, a phase cloak like the d'ridthau, but perhaps offering increased singularity power generation while active, and for the engineer version a beam-like heal (like hazard emitters) that restores both shields and hull?

Just an idea.
Except that ship is from another game which is pretty much a no no because it would cost money to obtain the rights.

Trust me, if they were going to obtain the rights to a ship it wouldn't be a Sci ship unless this thing was even more over the top than the Vesta, which would be hard to do without it sorta not being a Sci ship anymore.

Right now the KDF needs ships...
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# 4
11-06-2013, 08:27 AM
I agree it'd be nice for the other factions to have as much variety in free ships while leveling as the Feds, I think I'd be just as happy with more costuming options for the ships we do get access to.
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# 5
11-06-2013, 08:57 AM
No we REALLY don't need anymore stupid sci ships. I hate them. If you sci's want sci ships ally with feds or be a damn fed...engi ships need more turn rate, I mean theyre engineer ships, they should have a BETTER turn rate than tac or sci ships cuz the're BLOODY ENGINEERING SHIPS
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# 6
11-06-2013, 09:04 AM
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No we REALLY don't need anymore stupid sci ships. I hate them. If you sci's want sci ships ally with feds or be a damn fed...engi ships need more turn rate, I mean theyre engineer ships, they should have a BETTER turn rate than tac or sci ships cuz the're BLOODY ENGINEERING SHIPS
You know you've blown your objectivity with the line "I hate them."... If you don't like them then YOU don't play them, you don't decide what others must and mustn't do.

On topic:
I would love to see a nimble cruiser, I currently use the Scimitar, but I really miss the Vor'Cha playstyle
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# 7
11-06-2013, 11:03 AM
Well not only do we need more science ships for both the KDF and Romulans, roms also need a dedicated tac line and enginnering line.

Cause if you look at the tier 2 and 3 romulan warbirds, they are Science heavy far as BOFFs. Far as comp slots Dhelan has more tac slots but the mogai is even spread between tack and science.

What they REALLY need to do is even if it's the same damn ship 3 times for each track, split it up so each track has different officers and slots if you can't find enough ships. A mogai tactical bird, Mogai crusier and Mogai exploration[science] variant.

Least each track would have a ship tailored to that track. And far as the Rear Admiral ships, they need a COMPLETE redisgn. They are all HORRID to look at.
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# 8
11-06-2013, 01:26 PM
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Well not only do we need more science ships for both the KDF and Romulans, roms also need a dedicated tac line and enginnering line.

Cause if you look at the tier 2 and 3 romulan warbirds, they are Science heavy far as BOFFs. Far as comp slots Dhelan has more tac slots but the mogai is even spread between tack and science.

What they REALLY need to do is even if it's the same damn ship 3 times for each track, split it up so each track has different officers and slots if you can't find enough ships. A mogai tactical bird, Mogai crusier and Mogai exploration[science] variant.

Least each track would have a ship tailored to that track. And far as the Rear Admiral ships, they need a COMPLETE redisgn. They are all HORRID to look at.
Who really care about ships you're leveling up in? You aren't in them for in them for long and boffs really don't matter much then anyways.

So they should redesign the ships because you say so huh?
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# 9
11-06-2013, 02:41 PM
Any fans of the Star Trek Armada II Mod: Fleet Operations out there...

They have some great Romulan Models that I would love to see added to the STO game:

Generix Class -- "A medium sized and ranged unit, the Generix is equipped with torpedo weaponry. This load out enables it to deal high damage to large sized vessels as well as many medium sized ships - such as those the Borg would field. Bear in mind that it bears weaponry of a limited attack arc and it is thus important to consider this in fleet composition as well as hit and run attacks."

Rhienn Class -- "A relatively fast, small sized destroyer, the Rhienn is equipped with long range pulse weaponry. Although this unit is not equipped with exceedingly powerful weaponry, the Rhienn is an excellent distraction unit."

Shrike Class -- "Designed to counter Starfleet's Defiant Class, this vessel is fast maneuverable, armed with plasma cannons and projectile weaponry. In addition it as the added benefit of being able to transport away teams while cloaked."

Griffin Class -- "A medium ranged and sized cruiser, this beam based vessel is an effective warship against all sizes of enemy vessels "

& Leahval Class Science Ship
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USS Dauntless

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USS Lexington
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# 10
11-06-2013, 03:54 PM
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Who really care about ships you're leveling up in? You aren't in them for in them for long and boffs really don't matter much then anyways.

So they should redesign the ships because you say so huh?
Not because I say so, because it would even up the lines with the federation for starters and give us a broader base from which to choose. How bout we stick to that eh?
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