Lt. Commander
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 158
# 2561
11-05-2013, 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ridddickxxx View Post
OMG

Me and 4 obelisk carriers
Ii think i dont need to explain the details, you get the point
...
lol, I had the same reaction yesterday...I ended up carrying them through the CSE - really made me work my rear off. It's worse than the Oddy and Chimera periods...and the ship itself isn't very good - anyone with no experience with carriers uses it (the curiosity is understandable, but still)....it's something like giving someone a gun to shoot himself in the leg.
There should be a big sign - the carriers need top pets, otherwise they are half a ship - if you're not ready to spend 70-80k dil, stick with the escorts or the cruisers.

Last edited by satanailofhwbg; 11-05-2013 at 02:47 PM.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 150
# 2562
11-05-2013, 02:50 PM
This is why I don't STF...I randomly entered Hive..and boom..everyone except me were in frigates..say the least...we got slaughtered
Captain
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 758
# 2563
11-06-2013, 08:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ridddickxxx View Post
OMG

Me and 4 obelisk carriers
Ii think i dont need to explain the details, you get the point
...
try tacs in obelisk carriers, got that today, point is the Obelisk is engineer and sci heavy and limited tac wise.

Everytime i see tacs in Obelisks, the panic alarm rings


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Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 948
# 2564
11-07-2013, 01:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theraven2378 View Post
try tacs in obelisk carriers, got that today, point is the Obelisk is engineer and sci heavy and limited tac wise.

Everytime i see tacs in Obelisks, the panic alarm rings

Objection. I fly it currently as a fun-ship (on my weakest char), since i wait till i get the JHHEC and wanted something different than a raptor. Correctly flown, it can do its 15k dps on a tac, and 11.5k on a engineer. Aux2Bat of course. You can fly cure with 60% teamdamage and can do optional.

As it is with every ship, it strongly comes down to the captain, not to the ship
though you are correct, it doesnt really fit a tac. but to be honest, it doesnt really fit any class, since its that limited.
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Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 11
# 2565
11-07-2013, 02:23 AM
For the record, I fly a FAE, DHC/Turret with KCB and the new ODBA.

Khitomer Vortex Elite

Engineer Flying Heavy Cruiser Retrofit (Not Fleet Variant)
Engineer Flying Star Cruiser.
Science flying D'Kyr
Science flying Atrox (Cannon/Turrets, with a horrid turn radius)

(Premade, same fleet ID, can't recall the name)

In theory, that should be a decent group. They even inform me that they're recording DPS for this run, so I'm looking forward to it...Until this is said.

"Little escorts handle the probes, let the big boys handle the rest." (Heavy Cruiser player speaking)

So, I ask, "why do you figure I can't handle myself?"

"Listen noob, I pull 4k DPS in this ship, I don't need you slowing us down."

So, annoyingly, seeing as how they weren't even going to engage probes, they left me to deal with them...Cue each of them calling a Borg Cube. Cue only the D'Kyr surviving theirs...Cue this little escort proceeding to blow apart the remaining Cubes (who were barely below 70%), while telling the D'Kyr to handle the probes, as he's no good dead...Optional Objective isn't obtainable at this point because of stupid. Proceed to finish gates and clean up.

4 vs. Scimitar: Every Other Thalaron Burst the Heavy Cruiser, Star Cruiser and Atrox gets blown to pieces. D'Kyr has the smart sense to stay near me and switches to a support role, something the others aren't happy with.

"Don't support this noob, kill it!"

Help finish off Scimitar, am surprised that I'm tanking this thing (barely, but still).

Mission ends.

(the following numbers were rounded)

D'Kyr "HCR: 4.2k DPS, SC: 4k DPS, D'Kyr: 3.8k DPS, Atrox: 3k DPS"

Me: "What was mine?"

HCR: "Why bother asking, you're an escort mine is obviously going to be higher."

D'Kyr (Whisper: Are you sure you want him to know?)

Me (Whisper: Of course I do, I know what my ship puts out usually)

D'Kyr: FAE: 11.6k DPS

Me: Huh, that's about 1k lower than normal...Odd.

From here the Heavy Cruiser player begins to explode on how I must've been cheating, it's impossible to get that high DPS...etc...
He then insisted on Dueling me afterwards with his buddies. D'Kyr switched sides to watch the ensuing pain that was about to come and said he'd only heal me after I destroyed a craft.

I can't ever remember if they broke my shields...Yea...He was mad...
Commander
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 346
# 2566
11-07-2013, 03:56 AM
Mine was just two nights ago. I have a character that, for some reason, I had forgotten to get a MACO ground set for, so I was working on getting up rough omega marks for it. Since I new getting the optional a would help, I usually used premise groups with me fleet, all of us being in fleet retrofits. However, no one was on at this point in time, so I decided to PUG it. Worst decision ever.i joined KASE and immediately realized I was in for a ride. Here was my team:
Me: Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit, Tactical
Sci captain: Freebie obelisk with default swarmers (and weapons I think)
Tac captain: (probably a troll) Still rolling a Miranda
Engi captain: Rolling a long range science vessel (wtf?)
Sic captain: Going with a patrol escort

So here I am, in this game with absolutely no competent players, but I can't afford the leaver penalty because I need these marks. So I follow my fleets usual strategy, two guys take right gate, two take left, and we leave our fleet leader with a huge dps cruiser to guard the vortex, which should really be an easy job, they're just probes after all. When I am finished with one of the transformers on the right gate, I head to the other one, picking off a few probes on the way. This is when I see that all of the other players are barely holding off at the vortex. Eventually, I decide that I will have to lighten the load coming from my gate or we will lose because 4 people could handle probes. I take down the second transformer, and head to the gate. Used to having a partner, I die about 5 times before taking the gate down. Of course, this gets me yelled at that I have a horrible build and that I "don't deserve to be filling in for Jimmy!" So I'm guessing that this is a preformed group that I get thrust into. I repeat this process for the other side and then it comes time for donatra. This is where the Miranda dude actually (not really) reclaims himself a little. He has the emission seeking torpedo on his ship, so he can actually hit Donatra when she is cloaked. However, this battle turns into her cloaking, decloaking, and no one but me knowing to get out of the green circle. Eventually (after 1.5 hours) we win, and Share dps. there ships got around 1k, and the Miranda got significantly less, while I got about 12k. This is when the cheat insults come out, and I decide just to leave.
Republic Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,676
# 2567
11-07-2013, 06:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ridddickxxx View Post
OMG

Me and 4 obelisk carriers
Ii think i dont need to explain the details, you get the point
...
depends on theloadout, did a cure elite run, i was a sci rom in my advanced obelisk with the advanged swarers.... was second best DPS at 7.7k DPS. considering i was running MK XI greens and blues, no AP mag's, I did pretty well. with the Advanced Obelisk 3 peice set, it really boosts their damage with EPTW running a lot.
Joined Sept 09.

Curse you Archived Post.... you stole all my Ideas.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 4,100
# 2568
11-07-2013, 06:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by satanailofhwbg View Post
lol, I had the same reaction yesterday...I ended up carrying them through the CSE - really made me work my rear off. It's worse than the Oddy and Chimera periods...and the ship itself isn't very good - anyone with no experience with carriers uses it (the curiosity is understandable, but still)....it's something like giving someone a gun to shoot himself in the leg.
There should be a big sign - the carriers need top pets, otherwise they are half a ship - if you're not ready to spend 70-80k dil, stick with the escorts or the cruisers.
Agreed.

I've seen loads of Obelisk carriers in STF's over the past fews day; I don't actually think that I've been in an STF without at least one being present since the FE was released.

BUT, as with pretty much any ship, whilst most of the players I've encountered using them were probably only using them because it's the latest new shiny - the by-product of this being some pretty poor builds and players who either didn't have fighters equipped or were simply not using them if they did.
On the otherhand, I've seen some players doing awesome things with theirs, and the Elite fighters, if used, can really give the likes of the Spheres (in ISE) real trouble.

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Career Officer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,054
# 2569
11-08-2013, 10:52 AM
Sorry to ask this but I really don't know it.

How do you get the DPS record for STFs?

I am curious how I am doing in my Atrox.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,815
# 2570
11-08-2013, 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by feiqa View Post
Sorry to ask this but I really don't know it.

How do you get the DPS record for STFs?

I am curious how I am doing in my Atrox.
The game has a combat logging function (which you can turn on with /combatlog 1 and off with /combatlog 0), and external programs exist to "parse" the combatlog. There are several to choose from, of varying complexity. If they're properly set up, they should all give similar results. ISE is the best STF to parse, since it keeps the team together (there's a range limitation- if an ally or enemy is too far from you, your combatlog won't record their action).

Here's how I do it. One of several options, again, though my knowledge of the others is probably outdated now.
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