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# 11
11-07-2013, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by talonxv View Post
Well explain the Exeter Class crusier then, or the Excalbur? Those are new build ships, not 80 year old ships.
Doesn't matter. Navies create numerous types of ships for various roles. There is a lot of Tier 1 Patrol ships and a few Tier 5 Battleships and Nuclear Submarines. Navies never build just Battleships or Nuclear Submarines. Just like Starfleet would not just build Sovereigns. So the Exeter and Excalibur have a specific role, it is just not the same role that a Sovereign would have. Personally, most of the Fleet ships should not exist especially the Fleet ships that have a Tier 2 counterpart.
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# 12
11-07-2013, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by starkaos View Post
Doesn't matter. Navies create numerous types of ships for various roles. There is a lot of Tier 1 Patrol ships and a few Tier 5 Battleships and Nuclear Submarines. Navies never build just Battleships or Nuclear Submarines. Just like Starfleet would not just build Sovereigns. So the Exeter and Excalibur have a specific role, it is just not the same role that a Sovereign would have. Personally, most of the Fleet ships should not exist especially the Fleet ships that have a Tier 2 counterpart.
Sadly this gives me an idea I wish they implemented for STO at launch.

Tier 1. Your ship is based on career path.
Miranda = Tactical
Enterprise = Engineer
Soyuz = science
After that I can only think cruiser progression so bear with me.
Tier 2
Excelsior
Tier 3
Ambassador
Tier 4
Galaxy
Tier 5
The high end new stuff like the Oddesy
(I know I mispelled that again.)
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# 13
11-07-2013, 09:54 PM
I appologize if I jump around and seem disorganized. The order I responed to these is different than how I read them and copied them into the same post.


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No it wasn't... there was still at least one refit connie in service up untill Wolf 359
That was just extra wreckage that the FX department added to fill out the starship graveyard. It was suppose to be a generic ship to fill out the scene, and no way an indication of what ship it was. As it was "studio slag", it made for a cheap and easy stand-in for a real ship.

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I mean hell got a tier 5 Excelsior and refit, and Ambassador class. I think they could atleast slip in a tier 5 Exeter class.

Far as the miranda, no, just no. She's old, let here be.
Except, the (Alka)Excelsior was NEW is Star Trek III: the Search for Spock. Arguably, she was still new when Sulu commander her in Star Trek VI: The Undescovered Country. The Ambassador was pre-TNG, Post TOS Movie era. You can't compair them to the Connie which is at least 50 years older than Excelsior. Disregard the Admiral comments in ST3. Kirk's Two five-years, Pike's at least one Five-year, Robert April's Five-year, the refits between each captain, and the time between the series and the Movies easily discredits his comments.

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Originally Posted by skollulfr View Post
because they are 200 years old and have boon superseded.

the miranda by the shi'kahr(or miriam class if they add it)
the constitution by the Exeter class

wouldnt mind seeing an exeter-ised version of the miranda class, just call it Mira

then a soyuz inspired ship, call it the sukhoi class.
I want to see those added as skin options for the Miranda. Hell, I would shell out zen for it! In addition, don't forget Sisko's Saratoga from "Emissary" (DS9).

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Originally Posted by feiqa View Post
Well based on a lock box suggestion else where. Why not have some more support from classic materials.
No I am not saying a T5 NX

But put in the phase pistols, and use the really old ship designs.
Your mission is to stop a krenim attack to prevent the birth of the federation.
Klingons wish to do this as much of thier own growth is associated with their interactions with the federation. And the RR would not exist with out both the Federation and the Klingon Empire existing.

I smell a featured episode or mini series.
Not a bad idea. I would certainly support adding the phase pistols much like the classic type 2 phaser (both the Past Imperfect and TOS bundle versions)

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T5 NX series? Eh, I'd rather see NX replicas as Fed Carrier frigates personally.

Regardless of the ships, I also wouldn't mind seeing a post ENT/Pre-TOS single time traveling episode, similar to the B'vat traveling into the past bit. I seem to recall the first war with the romulans was around that time... Some NXs duking it out with T1 T'varos perhaps?
It's not like we don't have appropriate ship assets for it now.
I am not a fan of ENT, but you would have my support for this. Also add in the Daedalus-class (USS Essex, USS Horizon, USS Acheron, USS Carolina, the Model on Sisko's desk). Don't forget the pre-warp Romulan ships photographed for the first edition Star Trek Chronology.

Also, I would begrudgily support having the NX ships as the Federation Frigate pet for Altrox carriers. If nothing else, it would make the T5 NX crowd shut up.
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# 14
11-07-2013, 10:04 PM
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Regardless of the ships, I also wouldn't mind seeing a post ENT/Pre-TOS single time traveling episode, similar to the B'vat traveling into the past bit. I seem to recall the first war with the romulans was around that time... Some NXs duking it out with T1 T'varos perhaps?
It's not like we don't have appropriate ship assets for it now.
I would love that.
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# 15
11-08-2013, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by feiqa View Post
Tier 5
The high end new stuff like the Oddesy
(I know I mispelled that again.)
Indeed you did. The ship is called Oddity.
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# 16
11-08-2013, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by trygvar13 View Post
The Excelsior-class was still in service in the The Next Generation era and a refit version was even the flagship of an Admiral (U.S.S. Lakota). The Connie was decomissionned 80 years before that so an NX class... Doesn't really make sense now does it? I love the Ford Model T but I would never drive one today: would have to replace the motor as today's fuel would not work, replace the wheels and tires, etc... By the time it was completely refitted it would cost 10 times what it's really worth and it could still only carry 4 people.
I'd have to agree . It's ok to fly the old ship when your a lower level character, yet when you get to the higher levels, it wouldn't make sense for someone to go into space as an Admiral or even a Captain, and face off against a Borg ship or even a Klingon Bortasqu, with the old ship.

They do , seem to have a few ships which are similar to it though, in later levels, as has been mentioned.

Yet it is understandable , we all want what we want. No matter the views of others lol.

I wouldn't mind fifty whopper burgers and twenty chocolate easter bunnies for dinner, but it just ain't gonna happen , doesn't mean I can't dream though LOL.
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