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# 241
11-21-2013, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lordlalo View Post
Can you load DHCs in those Tactical slots? No? Just stop it.
Right then, so you would rather I ran no weapons (for all the good they would do if I did what you want) and run only heals for you and thereby be useless to a team?

I'd rather be useful in a way I enjoy and if that makes me a sociopath then I'd rather be a sociopath and be useful, thanks.
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# 242
11-21-2013, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by adamkafei View Post
Right then, so you would rather I ran no weapons (for all the good they would do if I did what you want) and run only heals for you and thereby be useless to a team?

I'd rather be useful in a way I enjoy and if that makes me a sociopath then I'd rather be a sociopath and be useful, thanks.
Yeah, sure equip no weapons -- indeed what was said. I said stop being silly, yet you get sillier. You could get 10 (maybe it was 8 IDK, not debating the semantics) tac consoles on a beam array boat and still couldn't match the dps of 4 DHC's. Your shenanigans aren't working.

I'm saying I don't care what cruiser you're in, if you're not healing your team mates or make a d-bag comment that I witnessed in a team just 2 weeks ago such as, "I'm not going to heal because I won't get first place" this system is broken as-is, and you're a d-bag for even entertaining the idea that it is kosher to throw a team mate under the bus because of his ship/class.

You know what your problem is right? Besides failure to read and understand you are assuming many things about me here:

1) That this thread somehow benefits me
2) That I don't have every class/ship/faction available
3) That I have no knowledge of the other classes and ships

You see, I have a fed tactical (yes it is my favorite), fed engineer, fed sci, rom tact, rom engineer, rom sci, etc for KDF. All VA's mind you, all with either a t5 fleet ship or comparable cstore ship. The problem is, I don't play these classes selfishly, when in a cruiser I do my best to tank and heal those who catch agro -- obviously if I don't have agro, its already my fault that they're tanking so tossing them a heal is the least I can do. When playing a sci ship/captain its much like a hybrid escort / cruiser -- while making sure I'm on top of the spot heals, I'm also ensuring that the mob is debuffed, while trying to put out as much dps as possible (which isn't much and is why I focus on order, heals, and debuffs) and providing some order to the fight with gravity wells.

The problem being, the moment one enters into an elite pug, those not playing with consideration of the team in mind, are effectively LEECHING because there is no way in hell they would complete the pug with 4 others like themselves (theory tested several times by purposely leaving and receiving hate tells blaming me for them loosing)
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.

Last edited by lordlalo; 11-21-2013 at 03:33 PM.
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# 243
11-21-2013, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lordlalo View Post
You really have no clue to what common sense is do you?
Actually, I think I do.

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Let me break it down for you:

1) Fleet has no activity policy
2) Fleet gets plagued with players logging in erratically
3) 90% of the fleet doesn't know fleet members from Adam
4) Fleet becomes antisocial
5) Fleet experiences same problems in PUGs.
Let me break it down for you even further. This is supposition based on your idea of how the game works. It doesn't in any way represent every fleet.

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however, the fleets ability to work together and the tenancy for players to walk the line of their class to provide the greatest benefit to the group is not common of these relaxed fleets, in fact it seems to be completely opposite.
I don't have any problem working together with anyone in our fleet.
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Anyone calling Valoreah a "Cryptic fanboy" must be new to the forum.
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The cost of actually commissioning an artisan to make a real physical model of my starship using 1 pound of 14k gold will probably cost less than creating a "gold ship" in STO.
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# 244
11-21-2013, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
or maybe, to use amodern fad of thought, its caused by morphic fields? You know thrm fields in nature that means two guys thousands of miles away know to eat a banana by peeling it first.
Taking a "Selfie" photo of your Captain is also Sociopathic by the OP's logic..
You know Cryptic has Jumped the Proverbial Shark when they introduced Tractor Pulling to Star Trek Online!
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# 245
11-21-2013, 03:35 PM
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Let me get this straight, because I don't make every effort to be politically correct, I'm wrong? Oh no, I don't think so. You won't find a single reply I've made discrediting someone's facts or ideas because they presented it in an honest and straight forward manner with no consideration of political correctness injected -- never. Facts aren't debatable, end of story.
Political correctness? Well that's another one of your previous assertions debunked - if you actually had the relevant credentials, you'd be able to fathom what I'm talking about instead of running with the sort of erroneous assumption I'd expect from a layman. It's painfully obvious now that you don't though, so please continue making slip-ups - when you're trying to weave a tangled web of obfuscation, it often becomes hard to keep track of it all.
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# 246
11-21-2013, 03:38 PM
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Actually, I think I do.
You 'think' you do? This would imply that you have challenged yourself at some point to verify this, which I can't imagine has happened yet. Case in point.

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Let me break it down for you even further. This is supposition based on your idea of how the game works. It doesn't in any way represent every fleet.
Right, we're speaking on a subject that covers 99% of pugs, so therefor you want to touch on the 1% of fleets that for the time being fits into the exception category and expect players to be able to easily find these fleets through the haystack. Good point /sarcasm.

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I don't have any problem working together with anyone in our fleet.
Driving around in your cruiser pew-pewing and being dazzled by the flashy lights is not working with them. That's working for yourself. If however you are running around healing when you loose agro, and doing everything within your power and ability to prevent a death in your team -- then why the hell are you arguing with me?
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.

Last edited by lordlalo; 11-21-2013 at 03:43 PM.
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# 247
11-21-2013, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by talaj View Post
Political correctness? Well that's another one of your previous assertions debunked - if you actually had the relevant credentials, you'd be able to fathom what I'm talking about instead of running with the sort of erroneous assumption I'd expect from a layman. It's painfully obvious now that you don't though, so please continue making slip-ups - when you're trying to weave a tangled web of obfuscation, it often becomes hard to keep track of it all.
Obvious lie is obvious -- I've N E V E R claimed to be PC or to be the PC Police. You can either cite yourself now or stop the libel.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
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# 248
11-21-2013, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gstamo01 View Post
Taking a "Selfie" photo of your Captain is also Sociopathic by the OP's logic..
That was funny. I may just put that in my signature
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
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# 249
11-21-2013, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lordlalo View Post
Obvious lie is obvious -- I've N E V E R claimed to be PC or to be the PC Police. You can either cite yourself now or stop the libel.
Who said anything about that sort of claim? Keep digging.
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# 250
11-21-2013, 03:51 PM
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Who said anything about that sort of claim? Keep digging.
......

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Your writings over the course of the recent threads that you've started are like a sample case for discourse 101. You might want to more thoroughly plan out your agenda when it comes to future efforts, because the anomalies are too easy to spot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse

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The totality of codified language (vocabulary) used in a given field of intellectual enquiry and of social practice, such as legal discourse, medical discourse, religious discourse, et cetera.[2]
So, I'm that sample case study in discourse 101 (which is also referred to as political science 101), therefor incorrect based upon the fact I choose not to be PC (which is what these studies -- if you've taken them -- demonstrate by showing an extreme case of either-or).

Please, keep bringing your politics into it....
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.

Last edited by lordlalo; 11-21-2013 at 03:55 PM.
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