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Survivor of Romulus
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# 21
11-22-2013, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by skyranger1414 View Post
Wait, it just occurs to me that you may be new. In that case I will explain why the Rom boffs from the embassy are no substitute. The embassy boffs have only one of the romulan space traits, either +crit or +def. Rom boffs accessible to rom players can have both. This is not a case of balancing things, of getting one thing but not another, they simply have better boffs. Perhaps now you understand WHY the rom boffs are such a sore point?

Now, lets tackle your ship comment. If you are new then its understandable you would not be familiar with the realities of STO, but I urge to go into any PvP match and see how many non lockbox or non romulan ships you see. Most lockbox and lobi ships can be acquired for far less than 200 USD worth of in-game resources. I understand that to a new player buying a lockbox or lobi ship from the exchange must seem like an impossible task, but I assure you, its how most players get theirs.

To give you some more perspective; the romulan ships have comparable or better stats than starfleet ships, while also having a battlecloak. Battlecloak was designed to be used only by relatively frail raptors and BoPs, the idea being that using battlecloak in the middle of combat was a risky maneuver. You will notice KDF raptors and BoPs have weaker stats to make up for having a tactical advantage by way of battlecloaks and potentially more than one decloak alpha in a fight. Romulan warbirds are durable enough and have enough extra escape options from singularity powers that there is very little risk to them simply battlecloaking and tking constant advantage of their decloak alpha bonus. A bonus, I might add, that can also benefit unduly from rom boff traits. To say romulans weren't built to be overpowered from the ground up and with total disregard for balance is to remain willfully blind.

So all this mess is about 2% defence??


I understand that you are not so familiar with this game, so let me explain

So everybody is a romulan in a lockbox ship?
Well most are still feds, half players are not even a VA, trust me this is a free to play game, and you think everybody has:
80 mil for ship, 50 mil for boffs, 40 mill for doffs, and then weapons, sets, consoles, reputation, max tier fleet...
And we all know how many people play pvp.

1.5 % is a big number.

non lockbox ships
romulans - battleclock
fed - console clock/no clock, comm array, warp core
kdf - clock/battleclock, comm array, warp core

You take my 10% defence, i will take yours +40 power and comm array

This is more than a fair trade for feds.


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# 22
11-22-2013, 03:04 PM
You left out singularity powers, boff crit/critd, infiltrator, and ship console set bonuses.

It isn't just 10% defense bro
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# 23
11-22-2013, 03:13 PM
So you want fed/kdf to have the extra crit from rom/rem boff's, but I notice that if it did happen there is no complaints omg, now kdf has a cloak and rom/rem boff's while the fed still has to rely on a console cloak QQ so unfair. But wait not only would they get the benefit of rom/rem boff's and a cloak, but also a M/AM warp core + comm commands. While yes a rom/rem can use a ship with a M/AM core also, they don't get the use of a wide variety of ships w/comm commands. Of course the KDF has even fewer w/comm commands, but they have more ships with cloaks and no need of a console to use theirs. As for the rom battle cloak the only thing good about it is you can cloak while under fire, outside of that and the slight bonus to the cloaks cd it isn't anything special other than a disappearing device.
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# 24
11-22-2013, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dahminus View Post
You left out singularity powers, boff crit/critd, infiltrator, and ship console set bonuses.

It isn't just 10% defense bro
You cant have both infiltrator and crit. You forget leadership, efficient, warfare specialist
What set bonuses that others dont have.

And skyranger1414 if you are loosing agains rommies in pvp, maybe your tactics is wrong, i have also fed character and i have no problem with them in pvp


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# 25
11-22-2013, 03:21 PM
And singularity jump, and reman BO's, and escorts with insane stats despite singularity cores.
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# 26
11-22-2013, 03:24 PM
This is pointless

Crypic we need tier 3 embassy comm array ability


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# 27
11-22-2013, 03:44 PM
Looks like someone doesn't want his Rommie balanced against the other factions, eh? Seriously dude, Ridddickxxx, you are just making yourself appear silly. In this case, the numbers just don't lie. Rommies have superior ships (I don't know a Rommie that would give up a Varo for a Bug, just sayin'), better doffs and access to better traits. There is a reason that the VAST majority of PvPers have rolled Rommies to replace their Fed Tacs, Engies and Scis. Or why you go into a FvK queue and don't see a single Klingon ship or Fed Ship for that matter.

There is no opportunity cost equal to the benefits rommies get over feds and Klinks, none.
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# 28
11-22-2013, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by brandonfl View Post
Looks like someone doesn't want his Rommie balanced against the other factions, eh? Seriously dude, Ridddickxxx, you are just making yourself appear silly. In this case, the numbers just don't lie. Rommies have superior ships (I don't know a Rommie that would give up a Varo for a Bug, just sayin'), better doffs and access to better traits. There is a reason that the VAST majority of PvPers have rolled Rommies to replace their Fed Tacs, Engies and Scis. Or why you go into a FvK queue and don't see a single Klingon ship or Fed Ship for that matter.

There is no opportunity cost equal to the benefits rommies get over feds and Klinks, none.
If you want balance thru boff's, than give my warbird a M/AM core, no1 has sing powers, +40 to my warbird power levels, all factions capable of a battle cloak, and roms can use comm commands. Sound fair to you now?
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# 29
11-22-2013, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ridddickxxx View Post
You cant have both infiltrator and crit. You forget leadership, efficient, warfare specialist
What set bonuses that others dont have.

And skyranger1414 if you are loosing agains rommies in pvp, maybe your tactics is wrong, i have also fed character and i have no problem with them in pvp
OK, fair enough that you can't get sro and infiltrator on the same boff. You can however get subterfuge and sro or subterfuge and infiltrator on the same boff.

As for the console sets, let's use the t'varo 2p set

You have the destabilized plasma torpedo and the singularity power cd reset power.

The 2p bonus increases torps by 10% and reduces cd if torps by 20%

I think all warbird's have a unique 2p bonus...

As for the traits available....

Efficient gives 1-2 power when a power level is set to the minimum

Leadership would've been great if the hull healing was nerfed instead of neutered

Space warfare specialist is minor and I thought you could only get 1.

So...ya the rom boff trait cake should be shared or nerfed to unstackanle
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# 30
11-22-2013, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ridddickxxx View Post
This is pointless

Crypic we need tier 3 embassy comm array ability
Let's just break it down

Comm array vs singularity powers...sounds fair? well escorts and sci vessels don't have these...so a little unfair for kdf/feds but ok...fair

Battle cloak vs +40 power...insane tactical advantage vs extra power to where you need it....fair enough

3 amazing boff traits vs. Situational at best traits(that roms have access too anyway)....rom clear advantage

2p console set bonus vs single console no bonus...roms win again...

So...ya sro should be available to the other factions or some incarnation of it...

The 2p console bonuses thing is a can of worms for another time
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