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# 1 Romulan Vesta?
12-04-2013, 05:43 PM
Any news, rumors, innuendos, dirty talk ...whatsoever on Rom version with aux plasma cannon and strong science bias. 3 pack is probably best.
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# 2
12-04-2013, 06:16 PM
...and KDF will yell foul.
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# 3
12-04-2013, 08:12 PM
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...and KDF will yell foul.
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# 4
12-04-2013, 08:20 PM
I wouldn't mind eventually having a similar ship to Vesta for my Romulan but the KDF deserves something like this first, and the KDF version should get 4 fore weapons to make up for all the neglect and lack of ships with extra fore weapons the other factions get.
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# 5
12-04-2013, 08:46 PM
The Romulans do not need a Vesta styled ship, ever. However, they do need another science vessel or two (or three, or four). However, I don't want to see anymore Romulan ships with hangars. The Romulans are masters of stealth and science, they don't rely on support craft outside of Reman designed vessels. I'd love to pop Gravity wells and control abilities before falling back under cloak.

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I wouldn't mind eventually having a similar ship to Vesta for my Romulan but the KDF deserves something like this first, and the KDF version should get 4 fore weapons to make up for all the neglect and lack of ships with extra fore weapons the other factions get.
Science Vessels must have 6 weapon slots, it's part of the drawback for using science ships. If you want a 4/2 science vessel, the Klingon faction already has such ships, they are called raiders.
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# 6
12-04-2013, 09:40 PM
Actually a Romulan ship with Vesta-like qualities would be perfect. Not sure why you'd say they don't need one ever - a tac-oriented Sci ship sounds perfectly Romulan to me.

Definitely agreed on dropping the hangar, though.

As for "Raiders are science ships". No, that's stupid. They're raiders. I think if the KDF does get a 4/2 sci ship (that's six slots, which means science ship by your definition), it should be a Gorn ship. I've been kicking around an idea for a KDF three-pack that includes a Vesta-ish Gorn ship as well as a new Orion and Nausicaan ship for a while now that that idea might fit well into...
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# 7
12-04-2013, 10:10 PM
The KDF needs a science ship that they can buy without having to spend lobi/EC. Right now the Palisade is it for the KDF as far as sci focused is concerned.
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# 8
12-04-2013, 10:45 PM
I would love a Reman or Romulan Vesta, but I agree the KDF should get some kind of true Science ship without having to pay for it.
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# 9
12-04-2013, 11:18 PM
Set up the Ar'Kif as sci with battle cloak, 4 front weapons/4 TAC consoles, +15 weapon power and escort maneuverability, run with what ever mix of rom( crits) or Hummie( ship healing) BOFFs floats your boat. Repair can always be boosted with the fleet neutroniums. Over time invest in superior crit boffs and add in human healers for the best of both worlds.

A problem with sci is that you can only really spec to do 1 thing very well and then add other stuff to fill your boff abilities. is there a sci setup you really want that needs lost of sci boff spots?

In truth the Vesta moves too well for a cruiser sized ship
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# 10
12-04-2013, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by macronius View Post
Any news, rumors, innuendos, dirty talk ...whatsoever on Rom version with aux plasma cannon and strong science bias.
I want to be crystal clear. I don't want a warbird with a "strong science bias". Arguably the Tulwar already fits that description.

I want a science warbird. I want a commander science boff station. I want a lt commander science (or universal) boff station. I want 4 or 5 science console slots.

Sensor analysis is a joke and subsystem targetting I could live without. But the boff stations and console slots are a must.

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The KDF needs a science ship that they can buy without having to spend lobi/EC. Right now the Palisade is it for the KDF as far as sci focused is concerned.
All of the boff stations on raiders are universal. So those functional perfectly well as science ships. I envy the kdf so much for those amazing (though not especially beautiful) little ships.

Klingons also have 3 proper science ships plus 2 science carriers (3 if you include the mirror).

FYI in addition to the palisade there are three other sci lockbox ships - the recluse, the orb weaver and the temporal.

Romulans have a single science ship (plus mirror).

Your wait has been longer (too long I agree) but our need is so much greater.

The devs did say though that KDF will be getting a new ship soon. I haven't read anything detailed about that but it wouldn't surprise me if they release kdf and romulan vesta style bundles at the same time.
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