Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 42
# 1021
11-30-2013, 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
is this for pvp? that looks well suited to pve, but wont work to well in pvp.

DC's, lose those, they are no good. your gunna want 4 DHCs instead.

for pvp on an escort, a non cloaking one at least, both EPtS and EPtE is basically essential, and you can fit both on the ship with 1 copy of each and damage control doffs. anything from 3 blues to 2 or 3 purples should be farily reliable for this. consoles and equipment are ok otherwise. AtS and HE1 are good on a ship like that, some people like to have RSP but you dont need it on something that fast imo.

since your just running cannons, for the rest of your doffs you cant go wrong with shield distribution doffs, giving you a shield heal with brace for impact.

APB is a good pve power, but wont get you anywhere in pvp really. try this instead

TT1, CRF1, APO1, APO3
TT1, APD1, CRF2

APO3 and CRF2 will get you higher spike then CRF3 and APO1 will. and with APD, you will alays have an attack pattern running, and that will give you extra resistence between APOs

thats pretty much your typical all cannon pvp escort build
Thanks for the reply.

Yes I Was thinking of setting this up just for PVP. I was on my way to outfitting it with DHC. Do you think I should stick with anti proton or poloron with the Jem'hadar MK12 set? I have them available already.

I'm pretty sure I have the doffs you mention for the emergency powers so will switch that around.

I didn't know about getting a better spike with APO3 and RF2 will definitely change that.

Thanks again.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,433
# 1022
12-03-2013, 01:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjlietz1 View Post
Thanks for the reply.

Yes I Was thinking of setting this up just for PVP. I was on my way to outfitting it with DHC. Do you think I should stick with anti proton or poloron with the Jem'hadar MK12 set? I have them available already.

I'm pretty sure I have the doffs you mention for the emergency powers so will switch that around.

I didn't know about getting a better spike with APO3 and RF2 will definitely change that.

Thanks again.
maybe even consider getting the proton pol weapons too, for just extra raw damage. theres another added benefit to the jem set thats frankly even more important then the pol damage buff, the stealth detection % multiplier, its huge. ships using it were detecting my warbird 7 range out, if you set your aux real high, you can blow away lurking warbirds before they can even ambush you!
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Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,898
# 1023
12-03-2013, 06:28 PM
I've seen a lot of A2B Excelsiors in this thread and as a profound hater of A2B I shall submit a different Excel build... my A2D one

http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=tribblev111_0
(Includes build, skill spec, rep spec and some notes, one can swap out APB for APO or APD depending upon preference)
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 39
# 1024
12-03-2013, 08:23 PM
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Lieutenant
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 39
# 1025
12-03-2013, 08:26 PM
I started a new thread about this here but I'll post in this thread to since I need all the help I can get

I'll try and be brief. I want to be dominant in pvp with my tac in the fleet qin heavy raptor. I recently switched to a new build, abandoning anti protons in favor of tetryon cannons and I added a leech console. And while it still is capable of holding its own in pvp, against some builds it just doesn't cut it, like other escorts and some of the nastier sci builds.

I have several other ships that work alot better in pvp, my cruiser, my carrier, but both of these are basically warp into a middle of a fed ball, A2B + TT1 + APA + FOW2 and watch everything around me explode. Yawn. I want to fly a raptor, grow a mustache and wear a leather jacket. I wanna be an ace, Goose!

link to the Build

3x Adv Fleet Tetryon DHC [Dmgx2][Accx2], Adv Quantum Torp [Dmgx3][CrtH]
Omega Deflector MkXII
Omega Engines MkXII
Hyper Injection Warp Core MkX [E->W][SCap]
KHG Shields
2x Adv Fleet Tetryon Turrets, Kinetic Cutting Beam MkXII
Engine Battery, Weapons Batter
Assimilate Console, Zero Point Energy Conduit, EPS Flow Regulator MkXI, RCS Accelerator MkXI
Field Generator MkXI, Plasmonic Leech
4x Tetryon Pulse Generator MkXI

BOFF Specials (4x Efficient Letheans 1x Liberated Borg

Cmdr Tac TS1, CRF1, CRF2, APO3
Lt. Cmdr Tac, TT1, HY2, APO1
Ensign Tac, TT1
Lt. Eng, EPtS1, EPtS2
Lt. Sci, TSS1, HE2

Skill Tree

9/9/9/0/9
9/0/9/0/0

0/9/6/3/6
9/3/3/9/0
9/9/9/9/9

0/6/0/0/0
6/6/0/0/0

9/9/0/9/0
9/0/0/0/4

Rep Space Skills

Nukara
Enhanced Shield Penetration

Omega
Omega Weapons Training
Omega Graviton Amplifier

New Romulus
Precision
Sensor Targeting Assault

DOFFs

3x Purple Technicians (BOFF Recharge)
2x Purple Conn Officer (Evasive Maneuvers)

That should do it. Like I said, build works good in some scenarios, decloak alpha strikes, and I know that this is never going to be anything more than a glass cannon, but I feel like I should be double tapping alot more, especially since I switched to Tetryon.

Is the gear wrong? Should I switch to Assimilated or Aegis or something?

Is my skill tree wrong? Am I not optimum in my build, particularly with the plasmonic leech console?

Doffs? Are the technicians doing me any good since I'm not running A2B? (Cannon or AP Purple DOFFs are probably a pipe dream for me at this point, as is MFD)

I will take any advice on getting this build dominant. I also welcome trolling and abuse, for example - "The Raptor is stupid and you are stupid you should kill yurself IRL." It's a free bump
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,601
# 1026
12-04-2013, 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stormcrow704 View Post
I started a new thread about this here but I'll post in this thread to since I need all the help I can get

I'll try and be brief. I want to be dominant in pvp with my tac in the fleet qin heavy raptor. I recently switched to a new build, abandoning anti protons in favor of tetryon cannons and I added a leech console. And while it still is capable of holding its own in pvp, against some builds it just doesn't cut it, like other escorts and some of the nastier sci builds.

I have several other ships that work alot better in pvp, my cruiser, my carrier, but both of these are basically warp into a middle of a fed ball, A2B + TT1 + APA + FOW2 and watch everything around me explode. Yawn. I want to fly a raptor, grow a mustache and wear a leather jacket. I wanna be an ace, Goose!

link to the Build

3x Adv Fleet Tetryon DHC [Dmgx2][Accx2], Adv Quantum Torp [Dmgx3][CrtH]
Omega Deflector MkXII
Omega Engines MkXII
Hyper Injection Warp Core MkX [E->W][SCap]
KHG Shields
2x Adv Fleet Tetryon Turrets, Kinetic Cutting Beam MkXII
Engine Battery, Weapons Batter
Assimilate Console, Zero Point Energy Conduit, EPS Flow Regulator MkXI, RCS Accelerator MkXI
Field Generator MkXI, Plasmonic Leech
4x Tetryon Pulse Generator MkXI

BOFF Specials (4x Efficient Letheans 1x Liberated Borg

Cmdr Tac TS1, CRF1, CRF2, APO3
Lt. Cmdr Tac, TT1, HY2, APO1
Ensign Tac, TT1
Lt. Eng, EPtS1, EPtS2
Lt. Sci, TSS1, HE2

Skill Tree

9/9/9/0/9
9/0/9/0/0

0/9/6/3/6
9/3/3/9/0
9/9/9/9/9

0/6/0/0/0
6/6/0/0/0

9/9/0/9/0
9/0/0/0/4

Rep Space Skills

Nukara
Enhanced Shield Penetration

Omega
Omega Weapons Training
Omega Graviton Amplifier

New Romulus
Precision
Sensor Targeting Assault

DOFFs

3x Purple Technicians (BOFF Recharge)
2x Purple Conn Officer (Evasive Maneuvers)

That should do it. Like I said, build works good in some scenarios, decloak alpha strikes, and I know that this is never going to be anything more than a glass cannon, but I feel like I should be double tapping alot more, especially since I switched to Tetryon.

Is the gear wrong? Should I switch to Assimilated or Aegis or something?

Is my skill tree wrong? Am I not optimum in my build, particularly with the plasmonic leech console?

Doffs? Are the technicians doing me any good since I'm not running A2B? (Cannon or AP Purple DOFFs are probably a pipe dream for me at this point, as is MFD)

I will take any advice on getting this build dominant. I also welcome trolling and abuse, for example - "The Raptor is stupid and you are stupid you should kill yurself IRL." It's a free bump
Well you are basically a defiant with less tac consoles and a weird pivot. Use the links in the OP for a good defiant build. Your standard cloak doesn't compensate so compared to fed scorts your performance is bound to lack luster but there is still room for improvement.

the biggest waste is three technicians they don't do anything for you without aux2bat. Depending on your EC go with Shield Distribution for a start, AP conn doffs if you can afford them, or pretty much any other doffs but the technicians...you get the picture.

Another very common option would be 3xDMG control doffs, and then rotate EPTE1 (or eptw1) with EPtS2. Instead of having 2x epts.

In PvP....either drop the torp for a DBB, or another DHC. This one is a bit on the personal preference side, but if you stick with torps, 3x projectile doffs would be a nice replacement for the technicians.

Tets are pretty..... that being said, their proc is weak. Not the best DPS weapon by far, especially without high FlowC. I wouldn't use em on a escort, leave it to shield strippin science ships with 5x embassy FlowC consoles. These would also boost your 2pc omega set bonus.

Drop the EPS, without Beam Overload its a waste. If you are willing to invest into more fleet gear here is your shopping list, since you asked, it ain't cheap, but its no lockbox gamble either: In order of importance:

1) Resilient Elite Fleet Shields [Adapt] once with [ResA] and once with [ResB]
1.1) If you are willing to let go of tets, gl elite fleet disruptors....be prepared for some raging mad pms.
2) 3x Blue Male Embassy Romulan Tactital BOs (not purple, not female)
3) 2x Nausican BOs (now better then efficient letheans) (any color with pirate trait will do
4) Use either Dil MIne RCS [ResALL] or Neutronium [Turn] Armor consoles, and drop the eps console
5) Consider FlowC embassy consoles
6) you can switch the romulan rep console for the nukara rep consoles, i think it has a general tetryon boost that would fit better here.
7) upgrade warp core to elite fleet core from dil mine with [+ some damage for every subsystem over 75 mod whose name escapes me right now]


that should do for a start....you picked a tricky ship to shine in. Obviously there are all sorts of lockbox / lobi items, but none of these are essential.


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Last edited by havam; 12-04-2013 at 04:40 PM.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 39
# 1027
12-04-2013, 04:39 PM
cool thanks for the "shopping list".
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,742
# 1028
12-04-2013, 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by havam View Post
7) upgrade warp core to elite fleet core from dil mine with [+ some damage for every subsystem over 75 mod whose name escapes me right now]
You're referring to an Elite Fleet Warp Core with the [AMP] tag.


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Ensign
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 7
# 1029
12-04-2013, 11:52 PM
So, after being away from STO for a while I'm still getting up to speed on some changes.

Currently, I'm trying to build a 1v1 ship for a competition, but due to various changes I could use a little help.

We'll just assume I have just about every ship at my disposal except for a bug ship, what are some builds you might recommend? Or, just any input you would offer on them. I heard something about a DEM build not too long ago but I'm not sure exactly what was used for that. A2B build seems to be the build to go for but I wasn't sure if thats what should be used for 1v1..

To be entirely honest, I've never spec'd a ship for 1v1. Just used whatever current build I had.

Limited to a Tac on this since I can no longer change it.
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 535
# 1030
12-14-2013, 02:28 PM
I'm looking for some Wells cc/heal builds... not sure if I should go for MACO 2pc+Elite fleet deflector, or the Adapted MACO set+Positron deflector for heals...
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