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# 21
01-30-2014, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kantazo1 View Post
Great video OP and thanks for the explanation, makes a lot of sense and those who don't like your video can go and fly a kite.
I don't want to cause any fights among the playerbase, not my intent. I do however want the playerbase to voice their opinion on the topic so that Cryptic and PWE will hear. Will it change things? It may not. But we have to try, we are what makes this game happen after all.
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# 22
01-30-2014, 08:53 AM
I understand the annoyance of many people about the necessary grind to acquire the anniversary ship this year. I'm a new player myself, coming from another PWE game Perfect world International and compared to this game STO is dirt cheap and basically without grinding. Nevertheless i know it can be really irritating to be forced into the grinding part.

P.S. The grind/c-store combo force is common to PWE games
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Last edited by dakaan750; 01-30-2014 at 08:55 AM.
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# 23
01-30-2014, 08:55 AM
Good Vid Doc!....although I was kinda hoping you were going to move around er something at somepoint haha


anyway on subject...


This is what I was screaming about for awhile in my own forums (about a year worth) and on my teamspeak is that Cryptic cant be bothered to produce at the level they did the first couple of years....we have gone from having 5 episode parts per FEATURE EPISODE to only 1 Part that you now grind over and over and over ...

ALL the grind these days proves that they
A don't have decent command decisions and no REAL GAMERS
B don't have the manpower to produce at the level THEY SHOULD BE
C its busy work due to the fact we have nothing else to do...lets face it

If content was created to actually last a few weeks that wasn't a "DAILY" objective we the players would be content for that content...erp...anyway but they just don't have the above mentioned going for them....

It takes a lot to run a mmo properly and I just don't think cryptic has what it needs anymore.....(IMO neverwinter should have never been made)

I do look forward to seeing all the "shiny" stuff and hopefully tim russ did a great job with his lines (he was great in The Secret World) and do look forward to the overall concept of the secondary deflectors and stuff...I shall keep my fingers crossed that the company takes a long hard look and adjusts a little bit after this situation...hell im not asking for much just maybe drop some grind time for a lil more stuff to do overall...im willing to meet in the middle...they should too.
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# 24
01-30-2014, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dakaan750 View Post
I understand the annoyance of many people about the necessary grind to acquire the anniversary ship this year. I'm a new player myself, coming from another PWE game Perfect world International and compared to this game STO is dirt cheap and basically without grinding. Nevertheless i know it can be really irritating to be forced into the grinding part.

P.S. The grind/c-store combo force is common to PWE games
For us, when the game started under Atari, it used to be very different. So this change once PWE bought Cryptic is foreign to us. We know the game one way, and it has changed and mutated into another thing. Hopefully new players will understand how we old players feel about the game changing in such ways. It started off so very different, with different goals, and missions that provided instant reward, the grind then, isn't what it is now, and the whole grind + pay to get the whole thing is new as well.
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# 25
01-30-2014, 09:09 AM
Good video Doc, I allways enjoy watching your videos about STO.

Just wanted to say that I can see where you're comming from with the comments in the video and I share the same concerns you spoke about. All of this that's been going on the past week doesn't give me a reassuring feel about the game's direction at all.
And just like you, I also want what's best for STO because I'd like to have it around for many years to come.

I'm at a point where I seriously doubt that Cryptic will reconsider anything for the future, seeing previous examples of how it works when they decide something - it's either that or nothing. I do hope that all the negative feedback will at least make them think and ask themselves wheather this model they're pushing is a good thing for the longetivity of this game or not.
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# 26
01-30-2014, 09:10 AM
thank you for posting this and I'm watching it now.
Psst!,...new Executive Producer. Please remove that old and retarded requirement to have a Jem'Hadar Attack ship, before I can use it as a carrier pet. Didn't I give you enough of my money just to get the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier?
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# 27
01-30-2014, 09:14 AM
I'm okay with some grind for things in game, what I hate is mindless grind, I have mussel memory from the winter event and could do it with my eyes closed by the time I was done with it, also as far as ARC goes, couldn't care less for it, I don't like multigame launchers, don't use steam, but if I have to have arc to play sto I guess I'm swallowing the pill.
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# 28
01-30-2014, 09:19 AM
If I've learned anything it's that PWE know they've got this player base right where they want them, almost stockholmed lol They'll keep coming back and blowing money in the C-Store and grinding for stuff their characters don't really need.
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# 29
01-30-2014, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by thedoctorbluebox View Post
For us, when the game started under Atari, it used to be very different. So this change once PWE bought Cryptic is foreign to us. We know the game one way, and it has changed and mutated into another thing. Hopefully new players will understand how we old players feel about the game changing in such ways. It started off so very different, with different goals, and missions that provided instant reward, the grind then, isn't what it is now, and the whole grind + pay to get the whole thing is new as well.
I understand you and the old players, just meant to say that PWE cares only about your precious dollars and i hope they wont transform STO into pay 2 win also
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# 30
01-30-2014, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tyraidd View Post
Given all this negativity they are throwing at us, I can't help but to think that something serious is about to happen in the STO community. Given we just got Khan's uniform, it could suffice to say that STO very well soon go up like the Reliant.
This has been said after every change in the game since it went F2P. Despite all of that the game is still growing.

Now don't interpret this as me endorsing the things you critisize, nothing could be further from the truth. But the fact of the matter is that people like to complain a lot, but at the end of the day they rather keep playing after all. And most people out there who aren't on the forums generally don't seem to give a **** about all of it. Or least there are enough new bodies to replace those that do as soon as they jump ship.
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