Funny you should mention that...I've been considering trying to put together some fun STF action with Tier-1 and 2 ships...I'm not much of an organizer, though...I generally just suggest the ideas, and let someone else work out the logistics....
...that said, though, I'm -all in- on a pure Tier-1 STF run or 2...; though on my main lv 50 Fed character, my TOS Connie's going in there with the best equipment I can put on it, aside from the Retro Phaser banks, which stay out of pure nostalgia...; toss me a message in-game, sometime!
Originally Posted by bugspatteredjack
+1 on this
I actually have started a channel called Star Trek Battles that runs along your idea just that you can use ANY ship you want. It has been so much fun and there are some guidelines but the main goal of it is to have fun and it has been for me and the feedback has been very positive.
So to capemike4 and bugspatteredjack I suggest looking at my thread
Well, perhaps instead of banning certain ships or levels from stfs, they should make ones specifically for those ships and levels. I don't have a problem with tier 1 or so ships joining in. Most of the time they do more to help than some of you tier 5 users. I'm mostly referring to you cannon escorts and scimitar pilots who sit in 1spot and turret everything, like having to fly your ship is such an effort. Or the ones who ignore the probes going for the gateway, like its beneath you because you have a ship like that. You guys are usually the cause of a missed optional because you assume someone else is going to take up your slack.
If someone chooses go use an old ship in an stf, they're perfectly free to do so. There are so many complaints about them all being too easy anyway that it shouldn't even be a problem for most of you, unless you're just all talk.
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What's hilarious is that there are so many uber DPS builders out there, you're likely to encounter at least one or two in the public queues, so having someone in there in a PoS Connie or Cannon Fodder shouldn't be a problem.
1. Please... show me this mythical 10k Miranda build.
Also, it's not always about firepower output... the Borg still hit hard, so you need some hull and shields. Remember, you do 0 DPS when dead.
1. It was an example, going with the point that as some people can do more damage with T1s than some other people in T5s, and hence it is pointless to restrict T1s from turning up just because they are T1. Numbers were entirely irrelevant. Of course, as you seem to have missed that completely...
To answer your somewhat patronising point, a Miranda can easily do 10k as a spike value with common/uncommon RA gear, as a normal person with real understanding of mechanics and how to max damage out. Put in some DPS god with a perfect build and 10k DPS overall has to be achievable, despite its mere 3 weapons slots, 3 console slots and 3 ensign level Boff seats.
2. Solution is not get killed. A bit difficult, but not impossible, just have enough people and things for them to target anything but you.
Some people are saying that those who want to play in a T1 ship should go create a private for that... Well guess what? You don't want to run the risk of playing with a T1 ship? Go make your own private match!
EDIT: If I see a T1 ship in an STF, I will be happy for the change of pace.
I am the STO Lorax. I picked myself up and left, until the day the fun is replanted.
I once accidentially took my T2 Connie into Infected Space Elite with the guys in my fleet. I was like "Oh crap I'm gonna die even with VA gear". The Borg never even looked at me, and we all got a good laugh, especially since I didn't die even once. lol
Originally Posted by Yang Xiao Long
At least you two have something that drives you. I've just always, gone with the flow, you know.
Extending that logic , a person doing 5k DPS in some 2500 Zen super-ship is allowed to stay yet someone kicking out 10k DPS with their little Miranda has to leave purely because they've turned up with their little Miranda?
Granted, there aren't many people capable of out-gunning T5s with T1s, but that doesn't mean those who can do it shouldn't be allowed to.
I doubt, and for that matter highly doubt that anyone is pulling that kind of dps with a t1 ship. firstly, you just don't have the weapons and modifiers to do it. nor the boff skills..
however, if a t1 or 2 superstar who can (and I still doubt it) pull those numbers off, then they have no problem..
the problem comes from the fact that they cant. and forget about being 1 shot by borg torp, youd be basically 1 shot by the lesser plasma dot.
im all for fun and messing around, but like everyone else is saying, do it on your own time..