Lt. Commander
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# 71
04-04-2014, 10:45 AM
While the intrepid is a sub-standard ship for t5, I have to admit, the belleraphon parts really make the model look good. ablative armor should have an unlimited timer. the no-energy weapons handicap is more than enough balance for it.

If they simply added an extra tac console it would be a legit ship. For now, its a novelty.

Even the fleet version isnt great- i have to have a t5 shipyard, or bribe someone into giving me access to one to get it, dispite having all the intrepid c-store unlocks. thats silly.
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# 72
04-04-2014, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kirk2390 View Post
State :

In Ensign Harry Kim's quarters, Harry plays his clarinet while Lieutenant jg Tom Paris sits on a nearby couch reading a book. They are both content until someone pounds on the wall opposite Kim's. As Kim yells an apology, Paris observes that Ensign Pablo Baytart must not appreciate music. Kim seems annoyed as he explains that the fluid conduits running through the walls conduct the sound of his clarinet; however, Paris counters by pointing out that the USS Voyager was built for combat performance, not musical performance.

Another One :

Specifications [ Edit ]
Length: 344 meters
Width: 144.84 meters
Height: 63 meters
Weight: 700,000 metric tons
Accommodation: 168 (including 42 officers)
Decks: 15
1 system, 4 turbolifts (computer controlled)
Bio-neural gel packs
Propulsion: Variable geometry warp nacelles
Armament: 13 phaseremitters (Type X)
Armament: 4 torpedolaunchers (Type 6, Mark-XXV photon torpedo)
Armament: Tricobalttorpedo (4 pieces)
Cruising speed: Warp 6
Maximum Warp Speed: Warp 9.975 (for 20 hours)
Holodecks: 2


So it clearly states it's a combat vessel !!!

No it doesn't. The Context to me is fairly clear here. The Conduits, which has a military intent to them (thwe Voyager like ALL Starfleet ships is designed to fill a "secondary military role" in the voyager's case, presumably that of a heavy frigate/light cruiser. speeding ahead of the main task force as a scout capable of handling itself, or serving as an escort to a newer cruiser. remember the intrepid is part of the same generation of ships as the Sovvy.)

which makes those stats you listed fairly unimportant. the 4 torpedo tubes is pretty small actually when you consider the Enterprise D had about the same number of phasers (remember older ship) and while it only had two torpedo launchers, those launchers where capable of a MUCH higher rate of fire. And we know the Enterprise wasn't intended to be a warship.

The tri-colbalt device is NOT standard on Federation ships. However the Voyager was on it's first mission on a "short duration combat assignment" so may have been equipped with them for that.

No one's saying the Intrepid isn't a capable combat ship. it is. but it is NOT a "defiant warship"
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# 73
04-04-2014, 01:04 PM
I have no issue with using the Intrepid class..... mostly because I know how to use science ships. I think the OP doesn't play science ships and is trying to cast blame upon cryptic unjustly.

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# 74
04-24-2014, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by risingstar2009 View Post
And as capemike4 has proven, the Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit, aka T5 Nebula, is also a very capable platform.
Oh wow, someone cited -me-...YAY!

But seriously, do not underestimate the defensive power of a Fleet Nebula Retrofit...finally got mine over 50,000 hull with the one of the Tier 4 Nukara space traits I just unlocked, yesterday...it's got pitiful DPS(based on a few after-action reports from friends, I average it out to around 1,600 DPS at -best-), but it was capable of standing off 3 Mirror Typhoons, destroying one before a friend arrived to help, and does quite well, healing and repairing allies...I'm quite happy with it!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...8-23-35-56.jpg

Now, with complete Nukara Space Set!
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# 75
04-24-2014, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by capemike4 View Post
Oh wow, someone cited -me-...YAY!

But seriously, do not underestimate the defensive power of a Fleet Nebula Retrofit...finally got mine over 50,000 hull with the one of the Tier 4 Nukara space traits I just unlocked, yesterday...it's got pitiful DPS(based on a few after-action reports from friends, I average it out to around 1,600 DPS at -best-), but it was capable of standing off 3 Mirror Typhoons, destroying one before a friend arrived to help, and does quite well, healing and repairing allies...I'm quite happy with it!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...8-23-35-56.jpg

Now, with complete Nukara Space Set!
Hehe, I use a Nebula with the original Borg set. that thing tanks like there's no tomorrow. Never tried parseing it. But it can do a LOT with gravwells alone.
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Why does a sci ship need more then 3 tact consoles? -.- Also why do people think voyagers a war ship, it wasnt in the show and its sure as hell not in the game...its specifically says science vessal with a 3/3 layout and sub targeting
Of course it was.
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# 76
04-24-2014, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by markhawkman View Post
Hehe, I use a Nebula with the original Borg set. that thing tanks like there's no tomorrow. Never tried parseing it. But it can do a LOT with gravwells alone.Of course it was.
That's just it...I've got Grav Well(II, I think?) along with Tyken's Rift, and the hitting power of a Gravimetric Photon Torp launcher up front and the Breen Transphasic Cluster Launcher in back(with 2 Tetryon Beam Arrays in front and back)...it somehow doesn't add up to much as far as 'over time' DPS goes, but the Breen Transphasic alone can deal massive damage in spikes, if the minelets all crit....

Starting to think some of us should organize a Nebula support group, like the Galaxy and Gal-X fans did....
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# 77
04-24-2014, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by amosov78 View Post
Since when was Voyager armed with pulse cannons? Since we never saw them fire such weapons, we're left to assume it wasn't armed with such things.
I believe that the Warship Voyager had pulse cannons, but I'm not 100% sure. Even if the Warship Voyager did have pulse cannons, it was only a holographic representation of the real Voyager.

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Lt. Commander
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# 78
04-24-2014, 03:23 PM
dunno what show he watched but the intrepid was not a combat ship. it had phases and a light armament of photons and tricolobolt witch they used the only 2 they had to blow up the space station in the second part of the first ep. in the game assuming its the c-store one the ablative generator can save you in a pinch.
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# 79
04-24-2014, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by christopher0184 View Post
I believe that the Warship Voyager had pulse cannons, but I'm not 100% sure. Even if the Warship Voyager did have pulse cannons, it was only a holographic representation of the real Voyager.
No it didn't.
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# 80
04-24-2014, 03:50 PM
TBH the T5 intrepid really needs some kind of set where the ablative armor has a toggle where it has a set of hit points to where when it runs out the armor dissolves and can be retoggled as long as there is health to it. Its just one of those things like the b'rel and other ships that haven't been developed like others out there since they came out which was like over 3 years ago.
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