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# 1 Defera Invasion Zone Update
06-18-2014, 09:32 AM
Reasoning
This is one of my favorite zones for running around and getting fleet\omega marks. However there are a lot of very old bugs, bugs that a lot of Defera loyalists are annoyed with but put up with. The tech used to create the zone is very old and is in desperate need of some love. There is a lot that can be done to improve this zone and hopefully we get enough people to voice their concerns to make this on cryptic’s to do list.


Current Bugs
There are a ton of current bugs that make certain missions either unplayable or just a pain. Here are some that I am aware of:
  • City Hard – borg do not spawn properly in side alcoves. Could be cause of center alcoves failing to spawn correct Deferi in. Also loot drop is right next to activation console which could cause errant activations.
  • Temple Hard – mission will sometimes not complete even when all requirements are met. Used to be caused by assimilated priests wandering into the area but over the past week this has not been the case.
  • Power Plant Hard – Mission will occasionally reset in the middle of the instance even when starting player has not died. This reset will often leave the door force field up and the activation console to be inactive – trapping the players.
  • Probe Hard – Mission will auto complete if any team on a map completes the mission. Don’t hate me! But this is a bug\exploit.
  • Power Plant (Medium): Closed Off – No force fields will appear around engineers and deactivation console is inactive.

Please post a reply with any additional bugs that I didn’t mention.

Overall Map

The overall map design is quite beautiful in my opinion and wouldn’t need to be redone. However all the interactive items or tech attached to these items will need to be stripped and replaced with newer more reliable tech.

Base Camp
Base camp will most likely need to most work in terms of map redesign.
+add bank functionality to mail console.
+ground consumable vendor.
+faction flags. A place for those looking for teams to stand under.

Missions
The crafting missions might need to be dropped with the upcoming crafting revamp.

Possibly adding in some easy and medium missions for the probe interior might be interesting but would be a time consuming endeavor.


Story
Adding a small story arc to the zone would also be interesting. This story mission could be a T1 omega rep reward that comes with the transwarp.
Something along the lines of:

1. Report to defera. The borg are trying to assimilate preserver technology.
2. Protect the civilians.
a. Complete any city mission.
3. Get power back up for defenses.
a. Complete any power plant mission.
4. Protect the artifacts.
a. Complete any temple mission.
5. Strike back.
a. Complete any probe mission.
Rewards
This zone was originally designed for level 40-49 players but has been dominated by VA’s. The defera reward packs should be changed to level appropriate items. Please keep mark rewards the same.


Let me know if there are any more suggestions. Hopefully if we get a big enough dialogue going we might see some action.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 2
06-18-2014, 11:07 AM
Cryptic knows about the problems and just recently did some work on it (iirc).
Maybe they have a grand master plan for Defera (which for Cryptic means nerf rewards, increase NPC damage and throw in some new mission requirement to increase tedious-ness that will become the new bug).

I think they're reluctant to "fix" Defera because they would, in all likelihood, do more damage.
I'm all for a re-packaging of the missions and level appropriate rewards though.

But my opinion is, leave Defera alone.
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# 3
06-18-2014, 06:27 PM
I would like to see both Defera and Nukara Prime revamped to be more similar in functionality to the Dyson Ground Battlezone, for consistency. Defeating bosses on Defera should also reward Borg Neural Processors similar to how Voth Cybernetic Implants are rewarded when the V-Rexes are defeated in the Dyson Battlezone. That part should attract more players and it would then serve as a feasible alternative to queued STF's.
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# 4
06-20-2014, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by csts84 View Post
I would like to see both Defera and Nukara Prime revamped to be more similar in functionality to the Dyson Ground Battlezone, for consistency. Defeating bosses on Defera should also reward Borg Neural Processors similar to how Voth Cybernetic Implants are rewarded when the V-Rexes are defeated in the Dyson Battlezone. That part should attract more players and it would then serve as a feasible alternative to queued STF's.
Only if Defera gets 10times harder, currently the Bosses are a joke. The V-Rex can at least kill you, the ones on Defera only if you got unlucky or are afk
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# 5
06-20-2014, 04:42 AM
I'm all for a revamp but DO NOT TOUCH THE FLEET MARK REWARDS part of the reason i ever go there is for them, when they took them away from nukara i and many people who used it stopped
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# 6
06-24-2014, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by csts84 View Post
I would like to see both Defera and Nukara Prime revamped to be more similar in functionality to the Dyson Ground Battlezone, for consistency. Defeating bosses on Defera should also reward Borg Neural Processors similar to how Voth Cybernetic Implants are rewarded when the V-Rexes are defeated in the Dyson Battlezone. That part should attract more players and it would then serve as a feasible alternative to queued STF's.
Agreed!

MORE SUGGESTIONS:

Change it to where you don't have to have a TEAM to do anything. ( Boffs are a much better option. You can always get them to join in. Same in the STF's. I've been in a few but the majority of the time there is never enough players for a team. Make it where we can use our boffs if we choose to on Defera/Nukara and add NPCs for the STFs when teams are non-existant or people don't want to have to deal with team attitudes. With all the lag, DCs and rubberbanding, I can see why newer players stay out of these battles! )


Change the rewards to offer these choices: all Omega marks, all Fleet marks or a combo of the 2. ( And while you're at it, ditch the pop-up for rewards. It's a huge pain when you are in the middle of Borg Country! Let the box go automatically into our inventory....we don't need a timer! ) And add the BNP as a bonus reward depending on difficulty level and/or number of completed missions.


Now for that comment about making the Defera bosses harder....NO!! Not everyone has the king of all PCs and 100 tbps internet!! But they could add the option for people who choose to die repeatedly! Say...4 levels of difficulty. Easy..for new people, folks who have connection/play issues. Moderate: About what the levels are now. Hard: where you get a spanking, sometimes repeatedly! INSANE Where NO ONE gets out alive!! !( The kind most of these combat ready guys thrive on! )


There are a lot of newer players, people who have older machines or simply have play issues ( lag, dc, rubberbanding ), etc, who aren't capable of tackling most of the intense battles. So not everyone wants harder! But it should be an option for those that do want it.
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# 7
06-24-2014, 03:54 AM
Be careful of what you're asking for. Changes are usually accompanied with more bugs and nerfs you've never would have imagined.
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# 8
06-24-2014, 05:01 AM
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Be careful of what you're asking for. Changes are usually accompanied with more bugs and nerfs you've never would have imagined.
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# 9
06-24-2014, 05:50 AM
Why not add a periodic undine invasion on defera to hinder the borg attempts to get preserver technology.

The undine are no doubt interested in the genetic know how from the Preservers.
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# 10
06-24-2014, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by csts84 View Post
I would like to see both Defera and Nukara Prime revamped to be more similar in functionality to the Dyson Ground Battlezone, for consistency. Defeating bosses on Defera should also reward Borg Neural Processors similar to how Voth Cybernetic Implants are rewarded when the V-Rexes are defeated in the Dyson Battlezone. That part should attract more players and it would then serve as a feasible alternative to queued STF's.
i would also like to see both, but considering how it takes about a season to make a new on, i'd figure it would take about half a season to repair an old one, so it would mean we would have to get one before the other instead of both at the same time. defera would be my priority of the two.
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