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# 21
07-14-2014, 07:35 AM
If you can't time your a2b to not gimp your science abilities, then you need to practice your timing.
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# 22
07-14-2014, 07:45 AM
Um... No. A2Bat is to be run nonstop. If you have to wait 30 seconds to fire off a sci skill, it might as well not even be there. On top of that you get nothing from TSS, HE, PH is nerfed, and tons more. The majority of sci boff skills need high aux to be effective.

OP: Ignore ANYBODY that says to run A2Bat on a sci ship like the Atrox. Just ignore them. They are missing the forrest for the trees.
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# 23
07-14-2014, 07:48 AM
Yup... I have no idea what I'm doing...

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# 24
07-14-2014, 07:56 AM
You may know what you're doing on other ships. You may be quite competent (and from what I've read, you are). You're just wrong about loading out a ship with CMDR and a Lt CMDR sci boffs with chained skills that destroy your ability to use sci skills reliably.

It would be like chaining A2Bat on a cruiser but not slotting any tac skills or ant EPTs. You're just shooting yourself in the foot and missing the entire point.
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# 25
07-14-2014, 09:22 AM
Yeah, have fun flying a dual-hangar carrier with pets that take about a minute to cool down.
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# 26
07-14-2014, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by shandypandy View Post
Yeah, have fun flying a dual-hangar carrier with pets that take about a minute to cool down.
Pet cd isn't the issue, it's the large amount of science skills on traditional science carriers. A2b works fine on jemhadar carrier, as are its pets.
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# 27
07-14-2014, 01:04 PM
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Pet cd isn't the issue, it's the large amount of science skills on traditional science carriers. A2b works fine on jemhadar carrier, as are its pets.
Not with those, because the fact they're carriers is a side thought to people aux2bat-ing them as they have commander tac stations. Running two commander level tac skills outweighs slow launching pets (at least in Pve).

With an Atrox, where gimping both hangars (and, as you say, all the sci boff slots) to get 2 ensign and 2 lt commander tac powers is, in my opinion, an utter waste of ec or time doffing in b'tran.

Anyway. My opinion. Could be tosh.
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# 28
07-14-2014, 01:19 PM
I haven't flown a carrier yet so I can't speak with 100% confidence. But i am quite sure that aux2batting an atrox running 5 auxillary on aux2bat activation will not hurt it in any shape or form.

Why can't people shift power settings and micomanage....nvm...it's an mmo community.

There also the 20 seconds of 100 auxiliary every minute deal, but I'll have to put my own build to the parse to prove it.

I really don't want to buy an atrox
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# 29
07-14-2014, 03:37 PM
Yeah, theres High DPS A2B and Non-A2B builds. yada yada.

I'm sure Kymm's build works just as she says, A2B generally does fix Tac lacking ships. I did it too and burned out on it. I have more fun with a challenge build. Trying to get the most of a ship by using Doffs to fill the gaps then just A2B everything.

No reason to argue, it's a thread about the Atrox, and She posted a higher DPS alternate way to do it. Thanks for the build. I do remember seeing your build before. Good stuff.

I've already changed a few things from my original, now running 2 TT doffs, 2 DCE Doffs, 2 Beam Doffs. So far hardly misses Global, but it happens. Also almost done getting the Nukara 2 Piece + undine Deflector. And Respeced my toon a little more general instead of Min Maxxing to support my Ship Hopping Fetish. Tired of Paying to Respec everytime a whim or a new Shiny appears. lol
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# 30
07-16-2014, 11:45 AM
atrox is a ship that should never get closer than 8K. stand off and pump torpedos and grav wells, let the fighters do their thing.

oh, and if you fly an atrox, there is only one name for it.. USS Overcompensating
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