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# 21
01-31-2010, 03:58 PM
I have enjoyed the heck out of the escort class. It's quick, maneuverable and packs a lot of firepower. It does however take a change of tactics both in attacking and defending.

For OP - may I suggest that old internet adage - please learn to play the class, and the game. If you spent as much effort on learning the class and developing some tactics as you have on posting, I think you would better enjoy the class and the game.
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# 22
01-31-2010, 03:59 PM
I am surprised no one berated him for saying he wanted a cloaking device. Bit of information: The Defiant is the ONLY fed ship with a cloak, it is not even the federations. The federation, in accordance with a treaty with the Romulans, agreed NEVER to develop cloaking technology. Watch the TNG episode about the USS Pegasus, its all there. The Defiants cloak is on loan by the Romulans to the Federation, with 2 conditions.

1. It is to be used only in the Gamma Quadrant. DS9 had MANY infractions, but many of these restated this condition, and Sisko had no choice but to "bend" the rule.

2. Any technological, biological, and scientifically worthwhile information gained in the Gamma Quadrant, would be shared with the Romulan Star Empire. The Romulans wanted to get info on the Gamma Quadrant, but with a Federation presence just outside, they decided to "use" the Federation like a tool, and just take what the found. The 1 and ONLY cloaking device ever used by a Federation ship was a small price to pay.
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# 23
01-31-2010, 04:00 PM
Game is ridiculous easy atm and you still want more ... Get BO with MES II and use rotate shield frequency (or science team II)

Right now i can decloack at 5km and destroy every patrol ship before rapid fire wears off You really dont need additional armor

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Originally Posted by scowal View Post
The escort class ship is completely unlike the original intent that the star trek series originally designed it. I am very disappointed that cryptic has taken away from the class design in order to fit it into the DPS/glass cannon slot.

The escort class is suppose to be heavy armor/ heavy weapons platform. The class is called escort because it is suppose to escort less armored and less armed ship classes.

As it stands now i cant last one Minuit in battle. I get hit with a torpedo my shields are down and get hit with phasers my armor is down 50% i spend the next 30 seconds trying to dodge and stay alive. This is not what the escort class is designed to do.

The escort class is suppose to have specially designed armor called Ablative armor. and this is what its suppose to do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablative_Armor

Also Where is my cloaking device that comes on escorts.

For more information on the huge discrepancies here are 2 places that you can gather info on how the ship is suppose to be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Defiant
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Defiant_(NX-74205

If Cryptic can not stay with the lore of star trek, then i cant play this game. I hope that a change is made soon. and i hope that star trek fans unite to help keep cryptic in there place.
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# 24
01-31-2010, 04:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scowal View Post
The escort class ship is completely unlike the original intent that the star trek series originally designed it. I am very disappointed that cryptic has taken away from the class design in order to fit it into the DPS/glass cannon slot.

The escort class is suppose to be heavy armor/ heavy weapons platform. The class is called escort because it is suppose to escort less armored and less armed ship classes.

As it stands now i cant last one Minuit in battle. I get hit with a torpedo my shields are down and get hit with phasers my armor is down 50% i spend the next 30 seconds trying to dodge and stay alive. This is not what the escort class is designed to do.

The escort class is suppose to have specially designed armor called Ablative armor. and this is what its suppose to do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablative_Armor

Also Where is my cloaking device that comes on escorts.

For more information on the huge discrepancies here are 2 places that you can gather info on how the ship is suppose to be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Defiant
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Defiant_(NX-74205

If Cryptic can not stay with the lore of star trek, then i cant play this game. I hope that a change is made soon. and i hope that star trek fans unite to help keep cryptic in there place.



Here is how it works.

The real starships, THE CRUISERS, fly in and biatch-slap the Klingons.

Then you come nipping at the Klingon's heels, like the little Chihuahua you are.






Thanks for proving my post with your next whine...er.....post.


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I was in a group with a crusier lvl 11 me lvl 11 against 5 lvl 10 bird of prays crusier takes 2 on and 3 get on me. torpedo hits me shields come down phasers hit again take shields all down another phaser strike and i am 50% armor. so i run. and 3 bird of pray have their way.
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# 25
01-31-2010, 04:00 PM
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I want my spaceship to allow me to be a fighter magic user cleric thief with the special monk ability kung fu in full plate.
forgot Ninja
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# 26 Here is how it goes
01-31-2010, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mirai View Post
Against what? What types of ships? What was your level? What was their level? I have a hard time believing your escort can't handle the standard spawn group of same level opponents.

You need to be more informative. Otherwise we're left to assume that you might have taken your escort against a large group of +10 or so enemies and naturally got clobbered.
I was in a group with a crusier lvl 11 me lvl 11 against 5 lvl 10 bird of prays crusier takes 2 on and 3 get on me. torpedo hits me shields come down phasers hit again take shields all down another phaser strike and i am 50% armor. so i run. and 3 bird of pray have their way.
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# 27
01-31-2010, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Fatherfungus View Post
the flaw in cryptics glass canon is....MMO's high DPS classes have....RANGE
Go talk to Age of conan assassins and barbarians. I'll be here waiting for them to laugh at your demands for easymode.

Seriously, this game is a cakewalk.
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# 28
01-31-2010, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rayin
So you want to be heavy DPS and a tank? Good luck with that.
While I know the game needs the holy trinity, "classes", the OP has a point.. Warships in Trek are built for firepower and survival.

The only thing that gets me is, they spent all that time writing a huge backstory for the game, all the lore and canon for after the events of Nemesis... then it breaks down to healer, tank, dps. I know, I know, its a game but a mixture of both lore and gameplay would be nice.
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# 29
01-31-2010, 04:03 PM
Just got my first escort ship before the current down time, so not seen what she can do yet.

Already had some extra weapons to add though in my inventory, so have some upgrades already. Was about to go to DS9 to buy some new ship and ground stuff.

Will see if she keeps up with the big boys.
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# 30
01-31-2010, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bheduwa
Hmm.. during OB I drove an Escort.. it was a wrecking ball and had unbelievable staying power.

Sure.. sometimes too many adds would take it out, but that was not the norm.

So.. right before they shut the server down just now, I leveled to LtComm and got me another Escort.


I sure, sure, sure hope they didnt alter Escort class from what it was in OB.. it is a most amazing class of badass.

EDIT to add::

Of course, in Open Beta, there were actually some useful drops that had decent upgrades.. now, however, sheesh.

I went all the way to 11 and I still don't have a Tactical Console.. and now I have a ship that uses 2 of them..

Not to mention the bugged BO reward from quests. Ya.. you get the BO, but they must have got vaporized when beaming aboard.. so.. still only the 3 BO that I had from way back.

Ya.. I'd say something has changed in the entire game since OB just a couple days ago. /pfft

If all you're doing is questing, don't expect much in the way of rewards. Do some PVP. I would average 33 badges per round, and the nice rewards cost about 120. Consoles, weapons, components, you name it. Also, fleet actions tend to yield some nice drops.

And for your BO's, have yo gone to your "Assignments" tab? When you get a BO, press K and go over to assignments, you can train their abilities or add them to your crew. They've been working for me.
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