Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,540
# 71
08-23-2014, 02:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaguarskx View Post
So can I choose the T5 Hegh'ta as my free T5 ship, but then cannot buy another for the 120k refined dilithium asking price?
Only if you delete the first one. You can't have 2 of the same ship in your Roster at the same time.

You can have the B'Rel (T1), the B'Rel Refit (T1+), The B'Rel Retrofit (T5) & the Fleet B'Rel Retrofit (T5) all at the same time but you can't have 2 Fleet B'Rel Retrofits.

That being said with the load out system provided your carrying all the gear, and have the right BOFFs you can run multiple configurations and save them.

For example I could have a Torpedo Bomber configuration for my B'Rel Retrofit and a DHC Configuration. And out of combat (a bit easier with Battlecloak) I can swap load outs with a couple of clicks as long as all the Gear is in my Inventory.
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Captain
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,342
# 72
08-23-2014, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kapla1755 View Post
Does the CEE count as an STF?

Plain Jane c-store B'rel in CCE

The MU Ki'Tang is also a joy to fly.... for lols I set my Ferasan Engy in one as an A2B Faw torp spammer for STFs and it does surprising well.

You just have to accept the fact that in a BoP you will occasionally die while serving the Empire usually due to a missing shield facing or Borg super torp but they are IMO some of the most fun ships you can fly in STO especially with some practice and the proper tactics.

PS biggest problem seems to be for me at least is that my Batteries still go missing from the power tray and i have to reslot them at the start of every map change.
I keep wanting to build up my mirror Kitang as a DHC boat, maybe even a A2B DHC boat. But it's just so frustrating trying to get behind mobs, point my nose at them and firing away. Lot of times too i end up pulling aggro so i have to go from a stop or a slow crawl to speeding away. It seems like loading up on +defense and speed tanking would be best, which an A2B faw setup could do. I can even keep the flanking bonus and just do donuts behind the mobs. But i really dont want another A2B boat, especially a BoP.


WTB reduced threat generation skills/talents/gear for small crafts and BoPs pst
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,076
# 73
08-23-2014, 09:23 AM
As far as DHC MU bop use this is as my sci alt characters version....

Lahne's MU BoP

Weapons
3 - Disruptor DHC with CritDx2/3 [Nanite/Elachi/polarized disr]
1 - Enhanced Bio molecular photon torp
1 - Heavy bio Disruptor turret
1 - Gravimetric photon torp

Aegis set and the Dyson anniv warp core
Wpn battery / Subspace Field modulator

Leech / Hydrodynaminc Compensator / Mk XI Fleet neutronium [+turn]
Borg console / Dyson console [for 2pc photon torp boost]
2 - Mk X Disr console / Vulnerabitiy Locator [Disr] / CC Tac console [CC 4pc weapons bonus]

Power Level = 100/60/25/15 for 125/78/50/49

Stations =
TT-1, CSV-1, TS-3, APO-3
HE-1, ST-2, GW-1
EptE-1, ET-2, EWP-1
THY-1

ISE parse = was 7.7k dps with 2.9mil damage done in the 6:25min run

Overall shes a very fun ship to fly in any of the STFs atm might get her a purple Energy wpns doff to reduce cannon cd recharge from one of my other alts but she works fine for me atm decently tanky especially if i swapped out the EWP for EptS-3 or ET-3 or A2Sif-2/A2damp-2 doffed.

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Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 68
# 74
08-24-2014, 08:28 AM
I fly a fleet B'Rel exclusively. It's a 10-12k ship, I might die once every other STF. It's NOT a hit and run ship, just a normal straight up cannon build. I run threat reduction consoles, and those are what seem to make it as survivable as it is. It's a challenge, but it certainly isn't "not viable" (double negative intended) as most of the community says it is. Just keep it simple. Don't too jiggy with it.

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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 613
# 75
08-24-2014, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tanuus View Post
I fly a fleet B'Rel exclusively. It's a 10-12k ship, I might die once every other STF. It's NOT a hit and run ship, just a normal straight up cannon build. I run threat reduction consoles, and those are what seem to make it as survivable as it is. It's a challenge, but it certainly isn't "not viable" (double negative intended) as most of the community says it is. Just keep it simple. Don't too jiggy with it.
Same here. If I get in the middle of an NPC spam fest occasionally I'll have to pull back a bit to heal, but I definitely do not fly and my ship does not perform, as a hit & run special. I use it to cannon everything in sight, just like my Defiant and T'varo does.
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Career Officer
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 68
# 76
08-24-2014, 02:22 PM
I'm using 2 BoP in stf's on 2 chars, often and no problem.

plus you have to get used to the position to master the flanking system

1 B'rel retrofit & 1 fleet HoH'SuS (4 tact console)

all equiped in disruptor + omega torp, pl leech, uni zero point, uni assimilated module, sc - threat console.

Com Tact : TT1 - TS2 - CSV2 - APB3
Lt com sci with ph1-HE2-TSS3
Lt Tact : TS1 - CSV1
LT Eng : ET1 - Epts2

and I don't have any problem in stf's.
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Lieutenant
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 37
# 77
08-24-2014, 06:13 PM
Cant really say much about Bops other than a HoH'SuS Bird-of-Prey (because fleet marks kept piling up and otherwise i never got around buying a decent BOP, despite alway considering it but ultimately settling with something... heavier) works in PVE.

Its a different style of fighting and those BOPs tend to be rather fragile. Do something stupid and you wind up in a nice fireball. But they dish out good damage. I think the main reason for them being rare in PVE is because you have to fly them actively, meaning timing and maneuvering, which can a bit exhausting whilst grinding for a longer duration.

Its just so much easier to sit in you tank-carrier and let the drones do the job. But it is certainly doable. I end often up doing it when i am either too lazy or to unaware to switch ships. No problem.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 214
# 78
08-24-2014, 09:19 PM
Now I am starting to wonder... so far I read someone saying use Jem'hadar set for a bop, dual beam bank, and thats it bad we have to withdraw? Did they nerf rapid fire or something? Before my break I ran a bop with Dual heavy cannons, full borg set, and did elite borg stfs in space. Never died unless I had a bad team, and I ended up having to pull more then I should with a ship of that class.

Anyways just carious did they nerf something in regards to cannon fire?
Specialist
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,052
# 79
08-25-2014, 08:31 AM
Nah. Just because it's in the PvE queue doesn't make it an STF.

The original trilogy, ISE, CSE, KSE (and maybe the newer HSE, but I'm reluctant to include it) are STFs.

The term STF applies to what now rewards omega rep marks. Special Task Forces were combined KDF/FED teams to combat the growing borg menace. They had their own officer contacts and their own [borg] equipment stores. All other stuff is not an STF.
Captain
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,820
# 80
08-25-2014, 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dknight0001 View Post
Only if you delete the first one. You can't have 2 of the same ship in your Roster at the same time.

You can have the B'Rel (T1), the B'Rel Refit (T1+), The B'Rel Retrofit (T5) & the Fleet B'Rel Retrofit (T5) all at the same time but you can't have 2 Fleet B'Rel Retrofits.

That being said with the load out system provided your carrying all the gear, and have the right BOFFs you can run multiple configurations and save them.

For example I could have a Torpedo Bomber configuration for my B'Rel Retrofit and a DHC Configuration. And out of combat (a bit easier with Battlecloak) I can swap load outs with a couple of clicks as long as all the Gear is in my Inventory.
Hmmmm....

I guess that kills my plan on having a more than one Mirror Ki'Tang as well; each with different load outs.

If so, then I suppose I'll just sell two of the unboxed Mirror Ki'Tang....
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