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# 1 Earth: the Final Frontier?
02-08-2010, 07:26 PM
( Was originally in the STO Discussions forum, decided this would be a better place for it )

Sooo I was driving along for work today, thinking in my head about how I wanted to write my bio for my Human. I decided I wanted him to be born on Earth, and then started thinking about where I wanted him to be from, what his parents did, and all that. It then dawned on me that, despite all the humans in Starfleet and shown in Star Trek... we really have no idea what Earth is like in the 24th century!

All we know about Earth is that it is a Socialist Utopia. And we barely know that! We only know that there is no poverty because everyone's needs are filled. But what does that mean? Do people have to work? What is the government like? Is there still crime? What is society like? What are the cities like? Are there still individual nations or is it all one big government? NONE of this is apparent, and I don't think it is ever adequately explained. I'm pretty sure it never comes up in episodes of the series or any of the movies - only very specific parts of Earth are used, and politics/society are pretty much ignored.

What is Earth? Why have they practically ignored it? Is it because they don't have any idea how to properly explain it or how to make it work? Is it because Americans are afraid of the word Socialism and thus wouldn't understand?

How am I supposed to write a Bio about a planet I know nothing about?
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# 2
02-08-2010, 08:07 PM
Nonsense, we've made lots of trips to Earth. Especially in DS9 and TNG. We've been there at least twice in Picard's shoes... one time where he reminisces about a lost love in Paris, and once in the series finale... probably more times than that, that's all I can remember. We see Earth, specifically Starfleet Command, numerous times in the TOS movies... oh, and we see lots and lots of Starfleet Academy in TNG when we've visiting Wesley for some reason.

I know they go there a few times in DS9 as well, but most of it is in the past, so I dunno if that counts.
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# 3
02-08-2010, 08:29 PM
VISITING Earth, yes. But on those visits we learn almost NOTHING about it. I did mention this when I pointed out that only very specific parts of the planet are ever shown, and they avoid giving too many details.

I mean, we knew so little about Earth by the time Enterprise came around that they were able to destroy Florida with the prototype Xindi superweapon and it didn't affect any other series!
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# 4
02-08-2010, 08:37 PM
Picard's family still owned a Vineyard in France. Sisko's dad runs a diner in New Orleans. Both of these locations are visted, along with flashbacks of a young Picard visiting a bar full of Naussicans...somewhere on Earth. I think we also get a bit of background on Alaska in the episode of TNG with Riker's dad.

I gather that everyone's basic needs are fulfilled. You'll never be without shelter, food, medical treatment, etc. Luxury goods, like Chateau Picard wine (which, incidentally, is a random food drop in game ) would have to be purchased, the universal currency seems to be gold pressed latinum but I imagine within the Federation trade is probably carried out with energy credits (or something similar) much like we do in game. You work, you get credits, you get nicer stuff, you don't work, you get a one room apartment somewhere with 3 basic uninspiring meals a day and all the free time in the world... to do things that don't cost credits.

So no more "Starving artists" just very bored artists
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# 5
02-09-2010, 01:34 PM
So I had a discussion with the guys on STORP about this, and it pretty much got the same amount of information. It really is true: We know nothing about the seat of power for Starfleet and the capitol of the Federation. lol

I decided to just write my Bio anyway. Finished it, hit 'save,' then got an error telling me that my description was invalid, dumping it all down the drain.

Oh well.
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# 6
02-09-2010, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Feor View Post

So no more "Starving artists" just very bored artists
Catch a freighter to Bajor or any war-torn planet to get inspiration.
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# 7
02-09-2010, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by theroguex View Post
So I had a discussion with the guys on STORP about this, and it pretty much got the same amount of information. It really is true: We know nothing about the seat of power for Starfleet and the capitol of the Federation. lol

I decided to just write my Bio anyway. Finished it, hit 'save,' then got an error telling me that my description was invalid, dumping it all down the drain.

Oh well.
ROFL sick.
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# 8
02-09-2010, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by theroguex View Post
So I had a discussion with the guys on STORP about this, and it pretty much got the same amount of information. It really is true: We know nothing about the seat of power for Starfleet and the capitol of the Federation. lol

I decided to just write my Bio anyway. Finished it, hit 'save,' then got an error telling me that my description was invalid, dumping it all down the drain.

Oh well.
Note pad is your friend. I'm a veteran of far too much 'net stuff. For most interactions typing directly into the client is fine, but for anything you find yourself putting time into, the best bet is to stop, open notepad, copy and continue writing in note pad. So when the client (Web form, game UI, etc) farts up, you've got a copy.

STO Game Client is not to be trusted. I tend to double check everything, just to be sure it will work (Thankfully. One wrong move in the starship customizer can totally fubar the registry, but if you catch it, you can back out and start over.) I'm not griping about it. Just recommending caution for maximum enjoyment.
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