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# 1 My Idea for balancing cloak
02-14-2010, 12:32 PM
Make it so you can scan for Klingon the same way you scan for anomaly in space I.E

Step one. Hit the "V" key it shoots out that blue texture from your deflector showing you where a Klingon ship is
step two. Full impulse there when you see the blue tracking texture start to turn down or move behind you you know to use your decloaking ability.

Limit Klingon speed to below full impulse (how it greys it out in combat) not be-able to go full impulse in cloak, (sorry guys you cant have your cake and eat it too)


Waiting 45 minutes for a Klingon team to uncloak and start pvping is just stupid, This will get rid of hour long stale mates.
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# 2
02-14-2010, 12:43 PM
Hi there, Science captains get an ability to detect cloaks called Sensor Scan, which can be buffed in various ways (i.e., appropriate Sensor equipment and skills, AUX power and skills). There are also other abilities that can help: Charged Particle Burst, Eject Warp Plasma.

Forcing a non-Full Impulse constraint on cloak will only make it take longer for them to arrive at you, because they will be crossing a map at normal speed while cloaked.

Lastly, your wait times are more a result of uneven population than cloak campers. Neither side wants a match to last longer than is efficient to gain points (or satisfy bloodlust).

To check to see if you are waiting for a Klingon team to form, click the Report button in your PVP window (this displays all players ever to have entered your instance, not necessarily everyone currently present), and then match those names against a local Search in your Social window (O key).

For more basic tips on space PVP, please check out http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...d.php?t=115814
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# 3
02-14-2010, 12:48 PM
you can mess with our cloak when you stop with chain holds IE tractor beam, viral infection target dead, Fed ball routine. Cloak is the only thing we have and half time it really doesn't make a difference. We sit in cloak waiting for you to leave to fed ball so maybe we have a chance to bring down one ship before we're ***** by cruiser and science vessels. Even when we focus fire on one fed 2-3 of us are dead by the time one fed is. You want to talk about having you cake and eating it to..... LOL Obviously you haven't played a Klingon.
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# 4
02-14-2010, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by scorpviper69 View Post
you can mess with our cloak when you stop with chain holds IE tractor beam, viral infection target dead, Fed ball routine. Cloak is the only thing we have and half time it really doesn't make a difference. We sit in cloak waiting for you to leave to fed ball so maybe we have a chance to bring down one ship before we're ***** by cruiser and science vessels. Even when we focus fire on one fed 2-3 of us are dead by the time one fed is. You want to talk about having you cake and eating it to..... LOL Obviously you haven't played a Klingon.
Yep feds are the only ones EVER to use VM
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# 5
02-14-2010, 01:00 PM
canon shows we can cloak and actually warp...so limiting us to less than high impulse isnt canon.

there are already ways to detect and even pull cloaked ships out of cloak...learn them and use them.

lastly, balance doesnt mean changing dynamics to convience you.
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# 6
02-14-2010, 01:03 PM
No need to balance something, which is balanced. The only inbalance is that on lower tiers klingons naturaly work together (forming premades to exp), while feds dont.
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# 7
02-14-2010, 01:03 PM
so tired of this clueless noob threads
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# 8
02-14-2010, 01:09 PM
PEOPLE there is 1 important FACT you are mission.

ONLY Bird of Prey Can Battle Cloak. No other Klingon ship can.

But, in the beginning when you are trying to find us..

Here is a tip..

MAX AUX POWER Then Fire Sensor Scan. i think the range at that setting is just over 10KMs
If you have 50% power to Aux or less you are scanning under 5kms.

Star Trek Truth: It was close to impossible to find a Clocked ship, Either Suliban, Klingon or Romulan. The science officer had to scan each sector of space for a anomily and most of the time it was 2 late.

NOTE: The Klingon Prototype that could fire when cloaked.. Both federation ships could NOT FIND it till. They had to make a torpedo to track its exhaust, then only when that torpedo impacted the hull revealed its position to the fed ships..

I know Star trek the movies and STO are different thing.. But, STO is suppose to Follow the STMs.

So, just be happy you have that method of tracking Klingons
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# 9
02-14-2010, 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Carter
Make it so you can scan for Klingon the same way you scan for anomaly in space I.E

Step one. Hit the "V" key it shoots out that blue texture from your deflector showing you where a Klingon ship is
step two. Full impulse there when you see the blue tracking texture start to turn down or move behind you you know to use your decloaking ability.

Limit Klingon speed to below full impulse (how it greys it out in combat) not be-able to go full impulse in cloak, (sorry guys you cant have your cake and eat it too)


Waiting 45 minutes for a Klingon team to uncloak and start pvping is just stupid, This will get rid of hour long stale mates.
Even better, really would be to learn to move the fedball and have science officers who did their jobs.

Sitting in one spot does not entitle you to winning.
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# 10
02-14-2010, 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittany
PEOPLE there is 1 important FACT you are mission.

ONLY Bird of Prey Can Battle Cloak. No other Klingon ship can.

But, in the beginning when you are trying to find us..

Here is a tip..

MAX AUX POWER Then Fire Sensor Scan. i think the range at that setting is just over 10KMs
If you have 50% power to Aux or less you are scanning under 5kms.

Star Trek Truth: It was close to impossible to find a Clocked ship, Either Suliban, Klingon or Romulan. The science officer had to scan each sector of space for a anomily and most of the time it was 2 late.

NOTE: The Klingon Prototype that could fire when cloaked.. Both federation ships could NOT FIND it till. They had to make a torpedo to track its exhaust, then only when that torpedo impacted the hull revealed its position to the fed ships..

I know Star trek the movies and STO are different thing.. But, STO is suppose to Follow the STMs.

So, just be happy you have that method of tracking Klingons

Craptic has already butchered cannon so why stop at a GAME mechanic that is flawed?
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