Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1 FPS massive drop
03-03-2010, 09:37 PM
Hello,

I've been playing since the beginning of open beta with no problems whatsoever. However, after the February 12th patch, I've noticed a massive FPS drop both in space and in ground missions. I was getting anywhere from 40 to 60 FPS before; after the patch, I get periodic drops of 1-5 FPS lasting anywhere from 8-10 seconds in duration. Has anyone else encountered this issue? I've only been able to rectify it by turning on the half-graphics toggle and setting the FPS to 30. I've tried all of the other toggles with no luck at all. Here's my info:

Time of this report: 3/4/2010, 00:11:32

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.091208-0542)
BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/01/08 Ver: 08.00.14
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 9550 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 3070MB RAM
Page File: 803MB used, 5561MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: The file ctaud2k.sys is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: The file ctaud2k.sys is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9500 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0640&SUBSYS_0643196E&REV_A1
Display Memory: 1777 MB
Dedicated Memory: 497 MB
Shared Memory: 1279 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic Non-PnP Monitor
Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll,nvwgf2um.dll,nvwgf2um.dll
Driver Version: 8.17.0011.9621 (English)
DDI Version: 10
BGRA Supported: Yes
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 9388648 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4500-11CF-4B5F-48261FC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0640
SubSys ID: 0x0643196E
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00211102&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1373 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: No
Date and Size: 6/4/2009 01:47:14, 526232 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: "What U Hear" (Creative SB X-Fi)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1373 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/4/2009 01:47:14, 526232 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Line-In (Creative SB X-Fi)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1373 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/4/2009 01:47:14, 526232 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Auxiliary (Creative SB X-Fi)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1373 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/4/2009 01:47:14, 526232 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Digital-In (Creative SB X-Fi)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1373 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/4/2009 01:47:14, 526232 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Microphone (Creative SB X-Fi)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1373 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/4/2009 01:47:14, 526232 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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System Devices
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Name: Creative SB X-Fi
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00211102&REV_00\4&296 6AB86&0&28A4

Name: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0640&SUBSYS_0643196E&REV_A1\4&7E6 82FB&0&0010
Driver: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ disp.inf_2274ec31\NvCplSetupEng.exe, 14.00.0000.0162 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 18198264 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\nvBridge.kmd, 8.17.0011.9621 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 10920 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\nvlddmkm.sys, 8.17.0011.9621 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 11586280 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\OpenCL.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 68200 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\dpinst.exe, 2.01.0000.0000 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 795104 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvapi.dll, 8.17.0011.9621 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 1280616 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcompiler.dll, 8.17.0011.9621 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 11639400 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuda.dll, 8.17.0011.9621 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 4061800 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuvenc.dll, 8.17.0011.9621 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 4077672 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuvid.dll, 8.17.0011.9621 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 2243176 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvd3dum.dll, 8.17.0011.9621 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 9388648 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvinfo.pb, 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 7437 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvoglv32.dll, 8.17.0011.9621 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 14924392 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvwgf2um.dll, 8.17.0011.9621 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 4321384 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Uninstall\nvdisp.nvu, 11/20/2009 21:34:54, 19077 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Uninstall\nvudisp.exe, 1.10.0052.0030 (English), 11/20/2009 21:34:54, 592488 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcod.dll, 1.07.0008.0073 (English), 11/20/2009 21:34:54, 182888 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcod189.dll, 1.07.0008.0073 (English), 1/11/2010 23:03:33, 182888 bytes

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158

Audio Capture Sources:
"What U Hear" (Creative SB X-Fi,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Auxiliary (Creative SB X-Fi),0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Digital-In (Creative SB X-Fi),0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Line-In (Creative SB X-Fi),0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
SB X-Fi Synth A [E800],0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
SB X-Fi Synth B [E800],0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
HD Audio SPDIF out,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
SB X-Fi DMusic Synth [E800],0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
SPDIF Out,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
SB X-Fi Synth A [E800],0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
SB X-Fi Synth B [E800],0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
SB X-Fi Audio [E800],0x00200000,2,2,,6.00.6001.18000

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Digital Output Device (SPDIF) (,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
DirectSound: Digital Output Device (SPDIF) (High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
DirectSound: SPDIF Out (Creative SB X-Fi),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
DirectSound: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
SPDIF Out (Creative SB X-Fi),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks everyone!!
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 2
03-04-2010, 01:54 AM
Just downloaded the 196.75 drivers posted by Nvidia on 3-2-2010. Hopefully, these may have some impact but we'll just have to see. I'll post my results when I get home from work today. Thanks again for the help!
Lt. Commander
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Posts: 120
# 3
03-04-2010, 10:01 AM
Sorry, I don't mean to bump this; just correcting what I posted before. I didn't mean a FPS drop by 1-5 FPS, what I meant was a FPS drop *TO* 1-5 FPS. Thank you for any help!
Lt. Commander
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# 4
03-04-2010, 10:22 AM
Can you tell me how to see what your FPS is? I can't seem to find it ingame.
Lt. Commander
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# 5
03-05-2010, 01:42 AM
Have you tried /FPSGRAPH 1 ? Should show any graphics "hiccups" in the game while you're playing.
Lt. Commander
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# 6
03-05-2010, 02:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lyflite View Post
Just downloaded the 196.75 drivers posted by Nvidia on 3-2-2010. Hopefully, these may have some impact but we'll just have to see. I'll post my results when I get home from work today. Thanks again for the help!
I'm not sure what's causing your framerate drops but you might want to revert back to .21 drivers as the .75 release seems to suffer from broken fan control:
Quote:
To users reporting fan speed issues with the latest 196.75 WHQL drivers from nvidia.com. Until we can verify and root cause this issue, we recommend that customers stay with, or return to 196.21 WHQL drivers. Release 196.75 drivers have been temporarily removed from our website.
Source > forums.nvidia.com
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# 7
03-05-2010, 03:06 AM
Update - still no real luck and on half-graphics setting now - again to get the FPS optimized. I am baffled as Mass Effect 2 works flawlessly on Max graphics settings. * shrugs shoulders*
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# 8
03-05-2010, 03:09 AM
Didn't see your post before but I'll try rolling back the drivers. Thanks for the input Llockheed!
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# 9
03-05-2010, 03:34 AM
OK, rolled back to the. 21 drivers. It'll see if this has any impact. Thanks again for the pointer!
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# 10
03-05-2010, 04:12 AM
Not kinda related but an interesting side-note; after rolling back the nvidia driver to. 21, I get an FPS drop in Mass Effect that I wasn't getting earlier. Weird..
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