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# 11
03-05-2010, 09:12 PM
So by your logic since some players have been calling for a cloak nerf, I must naturally support that too, right? Because some people want something, I must automatically approve of it as well?

I do not want the same content as the Federation. I want Klingon content.

It is insubstantial. If the Klingon faction never would have existed, Federation End Game content would have been developed anyway.

It is not Klingon content. It is Federation content that has been slightly retooled to allow Klingon players to play along. We're not talking about television canon, we're talking about the deployment of content and the approach of the Developers.
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# 12
03-06-2010, 12:44 AM
there use to be a few Devs that listened to our pleas, i remember them from Open Beta.

Stormshade
Jackalope

neither of which we have seen in a looooong time and we can only assume they have left the building.

now we get this new guy, Phoxe or w/e, who's more intent on shutting down threads posted by people who are leaving the game than addressing the concerns those players are bringing up. and after reading a lot of 'i quit' posts, i can tell you, most players are leaving b/c of the same reasons. these are also the same reasons that STO is getting negative reviews by gaming mags and sites.

STO works like the Congress would if it only had the House of Representatives.
each faction (or state) gets representation based on population.
that's why we have no real representation. we're simply not where the money is at, so far as subscriptions go.
a majority of the players i talk to who are lower-level in the KDF are merely Fed alts, which is sad. not a lot of new players are coming into the game who are rolling KDF as mains, and many of the players that have been around a while w/KDF mains simply don't play as often as they use to. we're primarily an alt faction at present.
the KDF has attracted mostly PvP'ers, unfortunately there are few people interested in PvP in the trek universe. the reality of it is, until KDF gets Episodic PvE content, most people who play STO will not consider rolling KDF as a main. many won't even consider rolling a KDF alt until this happens.

if the latest installment on 'Ask Cryptic' is any indication, episodic PvE content is a ways off for the KLingon faction, which is unfortunate seeing as how neither our numbers nor our representation will grow noticeably until this comes to pass.
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# 13
03-06-2010, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Adrian-Thorn View Post
So by your logic since some players have been calling for a cloak nerf, I must naturally support that too, right? Because some people want something, I must automatically approve of it as well?
That has nothing to do with my logic at all. I'm not saying you should like this because other people do. I'm not even saying you should like this at ALL if you dont want to. But whether you LIKE it or not has nothing to do with the fact that fighting against the Borg IS Klingon content because the Borg ARE a Klingon enemy.
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# 14
03-06-2010, 08:46 AM
Well said, Space Cadet. I wholeheartedly I agree.

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# 15
03-06-2010, 09:01 AM
LOL, thats funny. Enjoy your warning / infraction
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03-06-2010, 09:23 AM
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# 17
03-06-2010, 10:55 PM
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This raid is not "Federation" content, it is anyone who ISNT a Borg content. Perhaps you havent watched the shows, but the Borg are out to assimilate EVERYONE, not just the Federation. The Borg are just as much Klingon enemies as they are Fed enemies, and therefore they are just as much Klingon content as they are Fed content.
the klingons were deemed inferior and unworthy of assimilation. weak minds
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# 18
03-06-2010, 11:48 PM
Klingons are a faction that is becoming extinct.

Perhaps when Cryptic realizes one repeatable pve and nothing but pvp ques to level get's pretty mundane and far to repetitive then hopefully something happens.

Problem is there won't be many klinks left at that point.
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# 19
03-07-2010, 07:53 AM
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Perhaps when Cryptic realizes one repeatable pve and nothing but pvp ques to level get's pretty mundane and far to repetitive then hopefully something happens.
Cryptic already realizes it, hence their statements that more Klingon PvE is on the way. The only question is whether they will be able to deliver fast enough to salvage the faction.
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# 20
03-07-2010, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Azreell View Post
Klingons are a faction that is becoming extinct.

Perhaps when Cryptic realizes one repeatable pve and nothing but pvp ques to level get's pretty mundane and far to repetitive then hopefully something happens.

Problem is there won't be many klinks left at that point.


Actually, my own thoughts are that the Klingon faction ended up more than it was intended for. Cryptic determined that the vast majority of the playerbase would be Federation primarily. Klingons therefore were not so much a full fledged faction as they were an alternative avenue of play for the Federation playerbase (monster play).

It started to become a real monkey on Cryptic's back when an actual playerbase developed for the Klingon faction, a playerbase that had little inclination to play Fed. What had been intended as a place to toss your alt around was fast becoming a focal point for a new ... faction. This was not planned for by Cryptic, and something had to be done quickly to address it.

For starters, Cryptic began a marketing campaign of promises for what was becoming apparent: Klingons had no content. Part of it was quickly deflected with the brilliant idea of stating that Klingons were PvP only. This sort of backfired since it attracted the attention of many a hardcore PvPer.

The reality was there were no big plans for PvP in STO (why would they still claim that PvP is consensual only in STO? That must mean Cryptic don't see Klingons as a separate faction but more as an alt for Feds), and Cryptic wasn't going to be swayed to do otherwise just because 10% of the playerbase wanted it. So, after the time arrived for Cryptic to do good on its promises for the Klingon faction, nothing happened. At least, nothing of substance. They never intended to do otherwise. It was all a delay tactic fabricated with prevarication and minor tweaks of little actual impact (UI changes to unused away teams and the like).

So, if you're looking for Klingon representation, look elsewhere than STO. This is StarFleet Online, nothing more.

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