Lt. Commander
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# 11
03-11-2010, 11:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikenstein
Klingon ships are now much better than fed. First up klinks get an imba spell, fbp, that is no use to feds. Now compare the ships -

The raptor is pretty much the same as an escort, but it has a cloak. You tell me which is better, having a cloak or not having a cloak.

The battlecuiser has great survivabilty, turns on a penny, huge dps and a cloak. The cruiser has OK ish dps, great survivaility and cant turn at all, ever. The maps are too small for the turning circle.

The BOP has great dps, fantastic turn rate, imba universal slots and a cloak. The sci ship has been nerfed so much its worthless.

The carrier, well, what to compare that to fed side?
Using FPB on a cannon ship will not work but plenty of KDF use beams. Stop trying to use it on the BOP's.

All the Klink ships cloak. The BOP has battle cloak which has been beat to death. As long as a ship is in combat they are unable to cloak. You are welcome to play KDF and see if it is as big of advantage as you say. KDF ships pay for this with less shields and hulls.

Yes we have a carrier. You have other ships.

It is not the ships in pvp that are killing you it is better pvp players.
Lt. Commander
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# 12
03-11-2010, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rickhowdy View Post
This is not true.

1) Only Escorts on Federation side have access to heavy cannons while all ships except the Carrier have access to cannons on the Klingon side.

2) Federation does not have access to cloak technology. Element of surprise and ability to SNB first gives Klingons a huge advantage that outweighs hull/shield strength of Federation ships.
I said both factions have access to the 'same weaponry' and 'bridge officer abilities'. I didn't say that both factions have the same ships or ship innate abilities. How is what I said not true?

Both sides have specific advantages (e.g., Fed science vessel innate abilities, Klingon cloak, etc.) that offset their weaknesses or act as counter-measures to enemy advantages. There are counters to the cloak, just as there are counters to Beam Target Subsystems.

Both factions have access to SNB. The problem is not with cloak or cloak + SNB. The problem is with SNB. I can say this with reasonable objectivity because players of both factions complain equally about SNB.


EDIT: Punctuation.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
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# 13
03-11-2010, 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike111
Using FPB on a cannon ship will not work but plenty of KDF use beams. Stop trying to use it on the BOP's.

All the Klink ships cloak. The BOP has battle cloak which has been beat to death. As long as a ship is in combat they are unable to cloak. You are welcome to play KDF and see if it is as big of advantage as you say. KDF ships pay for this with less shields and hulls.

Yes we have a carrier. You have other ships.

It is not the ships in pvp that are killing you it is better pvp players.

I play both sides. Maybe I suddenly get much better when I log on as a klink? Then again maybe you should try pvp both sides, then you would become a better player and not the total noob you sound like.

You're actually going to tell me I should waste a BO slot on fbp on the off chance one of the klinks decides to use beams for a change? Is that what you would you, if you played blue side?

Lol
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