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# 21
04-03-2010, 11:44 AM
Wow, I blink in and out in my T2 BoP all the time.

The Klangs I chase don't appear to be having any problems either.
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# 22
04-03-2010, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Firetroll View Post
Well i beleve the Dev's need to remove the Bleed through on the Fed Shilds
10 % Bleed eww
or add more Resistance. why your at it

at 1 Time Fed shilds had no Bleed through
Really, all Klingon shields have always have bleed-thru. You sure about that?
Both sides have access to the same equipment, Feds have had an easier time obtaining them, but the newer Exploration missions for the Klingons are dropping some nice things.
There was at one time a display issue on the Purple Mk X shields where the bleed thru was not listed, but it still existed, but that was corrected to show the bleed thru in the description later.

I'd be OK with shields having no bleed thru, but the way it is now is also acceptable.
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# 23
04-03-2010, 01:24 PM
I have no problems with my Klingon BoP's, of course they actually have hulls and measurable shields.

The Fed ships however need a lot of help or equivalent Klingon stats.
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# 24
04-03-2010, 03:57 PM
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I have no problems with my Klingon BoP's, of course they actually have hulls and measurable shields.

The Fed ships however need a lot of help or equivalent Klingon stats.
klink stats are WORSE than fed stats, hull and shield wise (not touching turn rates ok?).
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# 25
04-03-2010, 06:22 PM
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I have no problems with my Klingon BoP's, of course they actually have hulls and measurable shields.

The Fed ships however need a lot of help or equivalent Klingon stats.
I suggest you actually compare the numbers then... The BoP is made of wet pasta compared to my Advanced Escort even.
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# 26
04-03-2010, 10:17 PM
I can only compare performance as I witness it.

My Fleet escort against Red Feds I last for awhile longer than against Klingons, but die eventually.

My BoP against Feds, never a problem even with starter BoP.

Hard to believe turn rate is doing that?

Numbers Smumbers who makes up the numbers? Are they accurate? or wishful thinking/ propaganda.
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# 27
04-03-2010, 10:46 PM
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Numbers Smumbers who makes up the numbers? Are they accurate? or wishful thinking/ propaganda.
While I can't give you exact numbers (just ask any klink, they're sensitive about it) all the klink ships have a small to moderately less amount of hull to compensate for their cloaking abilities.

All I can say is player skill at that point. I find that in my advanced escort I can handle most klinks in combat (read; most, the goodones won't let you fight back). Check your build, mull around the forums for advice, and practice practice practice.
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# 28
04-04-2010, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by faithborn
While I can't give you exact numbers (just ask any klink, they're sensitive about it) all the klink ships have a small to moderately less amount of hull to compensate for their cloaking abilities.

All I can say is player skill at that point. I find that in my advanced escort I can handle most klinks in combat (read; most, the goodones won't let you fight back). Check your build, mull around the forums for advice, and practice practice practice.
My shield on my tac Wrath is a Blue x2 cap and is 6.2k, my Sci has the purple x3 cap from marks and is 6.7k the hull is 24k. If any fed doubts this to be the case, please feel free to roll one and check for yourself.

I can survive due to my build/bo's for a while, after that if i am still up it is either becasuse the opposition is now respawning and i don't have to worry or because cruisers have been dumping heals and extends on me like crazy. Which i have to admit in the last week is happening a lot more for me in pugs.
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# 29
04-04-2010, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Thlaylie View Post
I can only compare performance as I witness it.

My Fleet escort against Red Feds I last for awhile longer than against Klingons, but die eventually.

My BoP against Feds, never a problem even with starter BoP.
You get your BoP in front of my Advanced Escort, you will die fast unless you tag me with VM or Aceton Field.

In a straight shootie deathness vs. shootie deathness contest, the Fed Escort has better DPS (one extra weapon slot), better hull and better shields. The only advantage the BoP has all things being equal situationally is it can run away better due to turn rate/cloak and it can bring its guns to bear faster due to the excellent turn rate.

My Advanced Escort (t5) - hull = 30,000... shields (purple Covariant Mk X [capx3]) = 7076

My BoP (t5) - hull = 25,512 ... shields (purple Covariant Mk X [capx3]) = 6792


I do a lot of PvP on both sides and your what-you-witness based notions might be because more Feds suck at PvP due to the fact they level via PvE, not because a BoP is more durable than an Escort (quite the opposite is true. The numbers show that clearly).

Hope that helps.
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# 30
04-04-2010, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by evilhippo View Post

My Advanced Escort (t5) - hull = 30,000... shields (purple Covariant Mk X [capx3]) = 7076

My BoP (t5) - hull = 25,512 ... shields (purple Covariant Mk X [capx3]) = 6792



Hope that helps.
did you take the t5 bop ship skill, i wonder as you have more hull on your t5 bop than i have
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