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# 31
05-01-2010, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Blodveard View Post
I have to disagree with this statement. STO and the most recent book, Star Trek Online: The Needs of the Many are the new sources of canon.

In the absence of a new TV series or a movie, STO is it. CBS who owns the IP has backed both the game and the book. That makes them canon, as much as any other iteration of the Star Trek property.

The fact that we are "watching" new Star Trek canon unfold before our eyes is even more exciting. On top of that, in some small measure, we are actually guiding some of that path as well.
nonsense.


true canon ended with Rodenberry selling the rights. He no longer needed a continuity archive, which is all canon ever was. It's the fans that have turned it into some kind of mythical bible. What remains now is the property of CBS and they decide what is Star Trek and what is not. Books, games, tie-ins and other such things licensed by CBS consumer products are just capitalising on owned property and have no actual bearing on the continuity of the Star Trek universe ( or 'canon' if you are obsessed enough to need to use that word still )
Lt. Commander
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# 32
05-01-2010, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ZootCadillac
nonsense.


true canon ended with Rodenberry selling the rights. He no longer needed a continuity archive, which is all canon ever was. It's the fans that have turned it into some kind of mythical bible. What remains now is the property of CBS and they decide what is Star Trek and what is not. Books, games, tie-ins and other such things licensed by CBS consumer products are just capitalising on owned property and have no actual bearing on the continuity of the Star Trek universe ( or 'canon' if you are obsessed enough to need to use that word still )
Actually, Gene didn't care about 'canon' and there was no continuity in TOS before Gene sold the rights. Episodes were filmed and aired 'out of order' by stardate, but it didn't matter because there's little, if any, reference to things that took place in another episode. And when Gene came back onboard for TNG, that continued, with little things from TOS being ignored, such as TOS making references to the fact that there wasn't a full scale nuclear WW3 on Earth, but TNG referencing just such a thing happening. Gene simply didn't care about the little things like that, the story was all important and whatever was needed to serve the story was OK, who cared if it rewrote the previous history of Earth already established in the series on screen Star Trek was the story of the main characters on the Enterprise, not the story of the Federation or Starfleet, so the history and continuity wasn't really important and no one was required to stick to something already written/filmed previously, and it shows constantly in TOS and in TNG. You even see it in DS9 and Voyager, which actually did a much better job of sticking to overarching storylines and trying to keep some sense of continuity, but they still had the occasional 'oops' moments.

Star Trek has always had a fubar'd backstory and history, there's no real canon, soft or hard, because no one, least of all Gene, did anything to try and make an established history. It was 'determined' by the IP owners, CBS, that anything shown on screen was 'canon' and everything else isn't years ago. That was changed by CBS to anything shown on screen was 'hard canon' and everything else was 'soft canon' because they actually started using the printed material(novels/comics/games) as inspiration and source material in the tv series and movies.

Of course, with the total reboot of the franchise with the new movies...it's all even MORE fubar'd then before
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