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Lt. Commander
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# 201
05-04-2010, 02:09 PM
The only thing that can be done to improve the appearance of the Galaxy class is to asplode it.
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# 202
05-04-2010, 02:12 PM
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The fact that other MMOs pull stunts like this does give everyone else a pass to try getting their players to participate in a pyramid scheme. it's still bad form, and overtly predatory on your customer base.

And the Galaxy Refit is pretty much the one 'canon' ship from the time period Cryptic's chosen that players have wanted since before launch. Restricting this ship to shills and spammers is something more like telling a WoW player that playing as an Elf is only unlocked through referrals (Or something outrageous like that. Never played Wow, don't care to learn about it). Or telling a SWG player that you unlock the Millenium Falcon through referrals.
I think far more people are interested in a T5 Galaxy, Intrepid, or Defiant refit then they are the once-used AGT Enterprise. YMMV
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# 203
05-04-2010, 02:15 PM
Let's try to cut down on the flaming guys. We don't need to look like rioters, and we don't need to get this thread shut down. This is a petition, not a riot thread.
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# 204
05-04-2010, 02:16 PM
I'd like a screenshot of the updated 3-nacelle Galaxy-class. ^_^;
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# 205
05-04-2010, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stormstryke
I think SpikeTV is running Voyager some nights really late. I was up pretty late last night and the first episode was on. I didn't watch it as much as TNG or even DS9 for that matter before but can't remember when it "jumped the shark" for me but I know it was during the first season.
It runs 2am Eastern on weekdays. I know for a fact because the internet/cable provider for the bulk of Kentucky and southern Indiana froze overnight at 2:35 am, and I had Spike on when I turned off my TV to go to work Saturday morning. They didn't get everything back online until 12:30 this afternoon.
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# 206
05-04-2010, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Intrepidox View Post
Or Cryptic could stop nickle and diming every chance they get and actually come up with legitimate ways to keep players playing their game, like making it an STF reward or something (from the upcoming Terrordome?)

But I suppose that would be considered good game design, and they seem incapable of that.
I agree with your first point.
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# 207
05-04-2010, 02:44 PM
I suppose every is ignoring the idea that it could still be unlockable.

The just assume there's no other way than spamming new joins.

We still don't have clarification - other than everyone will be getting access to some T5 galaxy, intrepid, and defiant apparently.
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# 208
05-04-2010, 02:45 PM
I am going to repost this since it was lost rapidly:

First off, I'd like to apologize to dstahl if this has become a riot. That was not my intention, I didn't want this to become a full blown riot like the salegate fiasco was. Riots are bad for the game, as they get people quiting, and all I care about is improving the game. This was intended to be a petition, and if you guys can't keep the posts civil, please leave the thread.

Now, let me gets this straight. The AGT Galaxy will have a unique power? What happened to the previous statement about exclusives not having lasting affects on gameplay. You said this back when people were worried about the effects preorder exclusives would have. At least those were low tier items that weren't useful at the higher levels, this is an end-game ship, where players spend most of their time. How is this power supposed to balance in PvP without becoming unfair? This was bad enough when an elite group of players were getting an aesthetic skin. Now they're getting unique powers?

Also, the statement about T5 versions of the Tier 4 ships is both exciting and disheartining. Though I'm happy to see lower tier ships made available at higher tiers, I had hoped for a full blown refit system, instead of just one tier getting bumped up.

Thanks for the quick response dstahl, and thinks for shedding some light on this mystery.
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# 209
05-04-2010, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by shikamaru317 View Post
I am going to repost this since it was lost rapidly:

First off, I'd like to apologize to dstahl if this has become a riot. That was not my intention, I didn't want this to become a full blown riot like the salegate fiasco was. Riots are bad for the game, as they get people quiting, and all I care about is improving the game. This was intended to be a petition, and if you guys can't keep the posts civil, please leave the thread.

Now, let me gets this straight. The AGT Galaxy will have a unique power? What happened to the previous statement about exclusives not having lasting affects on gameplay. You said this back when people were worried about the effects preorder exclusives would have. At least those were low tier items that weren't useful at the higher levels, this is an end-game ship, where players spend most of their time. How is this power supposed to balance in PvP without becoming unfair? This was bad enough when an elite group of players were getting an aesthetic skin. Now they're getting unique powers?

Also, the statement about T5 versions of the Tier 4 ships is both exciting and disheartining. Though I'm happy to see lower tier ships made available at higher tiers, I had hoped for a full blown refit system, instead of just one tier getting bumped up.

Thanks for the quick response dstahl, and thinks for shedding some light on this mystery.
Unique mechanics don't mean game-breaking ones - which is what they're trying to avoid, if I understand them correctly.

For example, a Tactical Turret (from Steam Preorders) can use a tactical slot.

However, you get better DPS by having other items there in the long run.
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# 210
05-04-2010, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Darren_Kitlor
I suppose every is ignoring the idea that it could still be unlockable.

The just assume there's no other way than spamming new joins.

We still don't have clarification - other than everyone will be getting access to some T5 galaxy, intrepid, and defiant apparently.
We can only react to what's been put in front of us. If someone wants to come by and correct or clarify what's implied on the Referral page, that'd be a good idea. At the moment, however, all we have is DStahl saying that there will be an upgraded Galaxy at some vauge future point in history, but that it will not be the All Good Things refit.
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