Go Back   Star Trek Online > Feedback > C-Store, ZEN, and Promotions
Login

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1071
05-07-2010, 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt.Expendable
Did I mention it's going to be the only Federation ship that can cloak?
The rumor, which even Dstahl wasn't sure of, is that it has a non-battle Cloak, which makes it no-more effective then MES.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1072
05-07-2010, 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmic_One View Post
The rumor, which even Dstahl wasn't sure of, is that it has a non-battle Cloak, which makes it no-more effective then MES.
MES is a joke, it doesn't work (even if it did, it takes up a BOFF skill slot)
A non-battle cloak is very effective for ambushes; it's what non-BoP Klingon ships use.

And I've come to know the dev wording used around here, dstahl talks with the designer, he wouldn't say it if it weren't happening.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1073
05-07-2010, 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_illustrious_q
That has not been confirmed yet. That is unless something changed in the last two hours and a dev posted something along those lines.
No, we've had no direct comment on this issue from Cryptic after DStahl's dismissal of our concerns as 'the regularly scheduled riot'. And then the threads were buried in a subforum.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1074
05-07-2010, 09:58 PM
I still think the best way to have carried out the RAF program would have been to model it after the CO system, where vanity items and CPs can be earned, but not items that have unique properties exclusive to only them. Even the suggestion that this ship may have a cloak and has a cannon that can hit multiple targets has made it a unique, as it is no longer "just a skin", it is now a unique ship only accessible by referring 5 friends AND getting them to subscribe beyond the 30 days, a ship that currently is not accessible by any other means. I don't think it should be in the C-store. I think it should have, all along, been a reward for a quest or crafting, one that takes time and effort in game to earn. This would keep people who really want the ship playing the game.

The rewards for referral are still good too, as Cryptic is essentially paying you in CPs to market the game. This saves you money, because if there are items in the C-store in the future that you really want, you don't have to buy the points yourself. This, on its own, should have been enough of an incentive. By adding the Gal-X as a reward, they have alienated some customers, as well as have divided the community. I have no problem with an RAF program, but giving it exclusive items with unique in-game mechanics (although not completely confirmed, these mechanics have been suggested at without any further clarification as to what they'll allow one to do) that are not accessible by any other means (currently) is going overboard. If they had done this, I highly doubt there would have been so much anger and fighting over the program.

Not everyone has access to the lists that some people are touting, not everyone is a member of 6 different gaming guilds and Star Trek groups etc. Some have already referred the few people they know that would be interested, and others, like myself, simply don't have enough friends interested in PC Games AND MMOs AND Star Trek with powerful enough computers to run the game available. It's a simple fact that not everyone has access to the same groups and resources to be able to recruit the 5 people needed to get the ship. To suggest that these people simply don't have any friends is insulting. Just because they aren't exactly like you and have access to all these incredible groups of people is no reason to insult them. To say the ship is available to all is to really be ignorant of the facts I've mentioned above. Some people really are unable to access this ship by simple virtue of who they are friends with. Thus, regardless of how some of you may like to tout it as accessible to all, the program is still excluding some and denying some access to this ship/unique game mechanic. The people saying that it's simply because these people "don't have any friends" etc, need to realize that just because you have access to a group of people who will for sure play the game doesn't mean everyone does.

I don't have a sense of entitlement. I don't think they should just give me the ship. But I do think I should be able to earn the ship in other ways than trying to shill the game to my friends.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1075
05-07-2010, 10:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dstahl View Post
The Galaxy X
- The cannon is specific to this ship, and takes the place of a weapon's slot,
. The beam is intendend to be a very narrow front cylinder beam that can pass through objects and hit multiple targets if you are lined up properly (out to a set distance).

it may have a non-battle cloak - which means that it might be able to cloak - but only out of combat.

Management is aware of this thread ...
MANAGEMENT.... IF YOU PUT CLOAK ON THIS FEDERATION SHIP I WILL GET THOSE FIVE RECRUITS....
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1076
05-07-2010, 10:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 910burns View Post
MANAGEMENT.... IF YOU PUT CLOAK ON THIS FEDERATION SHIP I WILL GET THOSE FIVE RECRUITS....
Thank you so much for supporting the decision to sell item powers in a subscription-based game
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1077
05-07-2010, 10:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt.Expendable
And every single one of those acquantances has an interest in MMOs, Star Trek and computers powerful enough to run STO.
You must live in Silicon Valley or next to MIT because here in the real world it doesn't work like that.
Actually I am impressed by the fact that STO runs on my hodgepodged computer as well as it does. Parts of my PC are over 10 years old like the hard drive, case and fans. In the last year and a half I have added a GTS 9500 video card currently valued at $60.00 an $80.00 Gigabyte Mobo and a $60.00 Intel Dualcore CPU. I built my PC on the cheap. STO runs just fine on my PC at recommended setting and a high resolution. I live in Phoenix Arizona by the way and make less than 24000 a year with two jobs. Now if I only had the time to make new friends. Then again that's why I like MMOs. The relation ships don't last long but they are fun none the less.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1078
05-08-2010, 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dstahl View Post
The Galaxy X was a specific ship created specifically for the Referral program. The goal with the other end game ships is that they would be unlockable by reaching the next tier level but the specifics of that are still be discussed.



Here's what I know about it so far - The cannon is specific to this ship, and takes the place of a weapon's slot, but is not an item that can be removed and placed on another ship. It shows up as a captain's power on your weapon tray. The beam is intendend to be a very narrow front cylinder beam that can pass through objects and hit multiple targets if you are lined up properly (out to a set distance).

There are no details yet on recharge timers or how it impacts cooldowns of other powers/weapons.

I've also heard rumor that it may have a non-battle cloak - which means that it might be able to cloak - but only out of combat.

Once the designer is finished with the ship - I'll see if I can get the full details.

The ship will be available by the time that your referals hit their first 30 day billing cycle.

also...

Management is aware of this thread ...
what about the klingons, will they be getting something to match the power/ability of this "cannon"
if this cannon is indeed going to be as strong as it seems to be then that would drasticly out balance pvp (to say the least) able to shoot down multiple ships in 1 shot? (can pass thru multiple objects in 1 shot ) how would the klingons counter this? and/or what would put them on par with this?
so far pvp wise klingons and feds have been fairly equal, klingons have cloak, feds have more skills to detect cloaks and a farther cloak detection range (not to mention science ships)
klingons have BOPs and carriers, fes have a wider ship selection and science vessels.
what's the balancing item for the klingons that helps balance out the equality of the galaxy-x cannon?

also cryptic stated previously that it did not want federation to have cloaking ability and to offset this it gave the feds better cloak/stealth detection, what are the klingons getting to offset the cloakability of the galaxy-x?
i'm afriad that, even if this is the only ship that will have this "cannon" or "cloaking" we'll just see a whole bunch of these ships flying around, even at higher lvl pvp teirs, why would i ant to fly a bigger ship if it has a less powerful weapon and no cloaking?
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1079
05-08-2010, 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by homsikpanda View Post
what about the klingons, will they be getting something to match the power/ability of this "cannon"
if this cannon is indeed going to be as strong as it seems to be then that would drasticly out balance pvp (to say the least) able to shoot down multiple ships in 1 shot? (can pass thru multiple objects in 1 shot ) how would the klingons counter this? and/or what would put them on par with this?
so far pvp wise klingons and feds have been fairly equal, klingons have cloak, feds have more skills to detect cloaks and a farther cloak detection range (not to mention science ships)
klingons have BOPs and carriers, fes have a wider ship selection and science vessels.
what's the balancing item for the klingons that helps balance out the equality of the galaxy-x cannon?

also cryptic stated previously that it did not want federation to have cloaking ability and to offset this it gave the feds better cloak/stealth detection, what are the klingons getting to offset the cloakability of the galaxy-x?
i'm afriad that, even if this is the only ship that will have this "cannon" or "cloaking" we'll just see a whole bunch of these ships flying around, even at higher lvl pvp teirs, why would i ant to fly a bigger ship if it has a less powerful weapon and no cloaking?
I doubt the effect of the cannon will be one-shotting multiple ships - that wouldn't be 'unique', that would be insane. But, it will still be something mechanically unique and endgame-relevant being sold off. And I will still despise it.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 1080
05-08-2010, 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by squidheadjax View Post
I doubt the effect of the cannon will be one-shotting multiple ships - that wouldn't be 'unique', that would be insane. But, it will still be something mechanically unique and endgame-relevant being sold off. And I will still despise it.
lol even in All Good Things... it was not a "god ship" It was powerful since it's refit, yes. But not invincible by any means. Two Defiant-class ships could probably have given it a run for it's money.
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:20 AM.