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# 31
06-23-2010, 11:06 PM
they are planning on fixing it next. they probly saved the worst one for last simply because of that reason... i would. I noticed the akira is a mess too.
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# 32
06-23-2010, 11:09 PM
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they are planning on fixing it next. they probly saved the worst one for last simply because of that reason... i would.
Maybe so. Either way the Sovereign is in need of some assistance...I look forward to seeing some screenies.
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# 33
06-23-2010, 11:49 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but it seems you are assigning the wrong tiers to ships. The Defiant is a Tier 4 ship, and Advanced and Fleet Escort are both Tier 5.
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# 34
06-24-2010, 01:02 AM
i thought I would give my feedback on fleet escorts. since a lot of ships are missing proper shuttlebays, this type seems to be missing them completely. the Maelstrom Class seems to have shuttlebays in the rear of the saucer piece. i suggested shuttlebays on the saucer pieces of the rest of the fleet escorts.
the Hermes seems to have insanely huge thruster assemblies, similar to the Cochrane science ship.

Hermes:

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-03-11-30.jpg
http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-03-12-42.jpg

Dervish:

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-03-13-17.jpg

Gryphon:

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-03-14-39.jpg

HEAVY CRUISERS:

Stargaszer: seems to have a lot of shuttle bay textures all over it, and phaser strips not textured correctly

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-04-11-27.jpg

Dakota: phaser strips not textured correctly

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-04-11-46.jpg
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# 35
06-24-2010, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but it seems you are assigning the wrong tiers to ships. The Defiant is a Tier 4 ship, and Advanced and Fleet Escort are both Tier 5.
Per Dstahl, the Light Cruisers / Frigates are Tier 0 and the Admiral classed ships are broken into two tiers. This was clarified in a previous Engineering report.
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# 36
06-24-2010, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wfs5519 View Post
i thought I would give my feedback on fleet escorts. since a lot of ships are missing proper shuttlebays, this type seems to be missing them completely. the Maelstrom Class seems to have shuttlebays in the rear of the saucer piece. i suggested shuttlebays on the saucer pieces of the rest of the fleet escorts.
the Hermes seems to have insanely huge thruster assemblies, similar to the Cochrane science ship.

Hermes:

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-03-11-30.jpg
http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-03-12-42.jpg

Dervish:

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-03-13-17.jpg

Gryphon:

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-03-14-39.jpg

HEAVY CRUISERS:

Stargaszer: seems to have a lot of shuttle bay textures all over it, and phaser strips not textured correctly

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-04-11-27.jpg

Dakota: phaser strips not textured correctly

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-04-11-46.jpg
Despite how the game represents the Fleet escorts, they are fairly small things; probably about Defiant sized. There really isn't room between the impulse exhausts for a shuttle bay. They would have to be moved much farther apart and the area for a bay would have to be made much larger.

As for how much scale in the game is off. CapnLogan said sometimes off by up to 400%. Perhaps the Capn will pop in and tell give us a true size comparison to see whether or not the thruster ports are to scale and if it is large enough to have a shuttle bay. However, if the thruster ports are to scale, then the ship would be quite small indeed.

( No more updates til Monday. Taking a short holiday.)
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# 37
06-24-2010, 03:34 PM
I know its not really a texture issue, but the paint jobs and colored areas for the Tactical Escorts (particularly the Defiant Hull) need to be redone for the underside. They look horrible and out of place.

For example:

Tail end of Defiant hull gets colored for no reason:

http://i49.tinypic.com/1z3tgg6.jpg

Using just about any paint style looks terrible on the underside, mostly because it lacks any symmetry and again, the tail end doesn't look right:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2dklana.jpg
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heres the player majestic class ship: http://s924.photobucket.com/albums/a...jesticship.png

and heres the non playable majestic ship that is seen everywhelse and is completley inconsistent except for the saucer: http://s924.photobucket.com/albums/a...esticcship.png

the latter looks far better and i would much rather have this than the weird lookin thing in my shipyard :p
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# 39
06-24-2010, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AngelSilhouette View Post
Despite how the game represents the Fleet escorts, they are fairly small things; probably about Defiant sized. There really isn't room between the impulse exhausts for a shuttle bay. They would have to be moved much farther apart and the area for a bay would have to be made much larger.

As for how much scale in the game is off. CapnLogan said sometimes off by up to 400%. Perhaps the Capn will pop in and tell give us a true size comparison to see whether or not the thruster ports are to scale and if it is large enough to have a shuttle bay. However, if the thruster ports are to scale, then the ship would be quite small indeed.

( No more updates til Monday. Taking a short holiday.)
i see your point.. however, one small note to consider is that I skipped the Maelstrom class because it seems to have shuttle doors on the rear of the saucer. That is actually what motivated my suggestions to put bays on the rear saucer on the others... to stay consistent when switching out parts.
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# 40
06-24-2010, 08:43 PM
Prometheus:

There should be a minature warp nacelle in that gap behind the main bridge.
Running lights missing

Sovereign: really odd number on back tip of nacelle.
To add: the dish color has changed in the comics since Data's command. Current color of dish is correct, but two giant impulse engines need to be added to the underside of the hull. Check Countdown comic for details.
Also, there is no running line across the middle of the central hull ontop. Check movie picture for verification.

In addition to Prometheus: bottom AND top mini nacelle are lit in warp as well as the two top nacelles.
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