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# 11
06-25-2010, 07:04 AM
It's far from clear that the Galaxy-X is an advantage in PvP or PvE. Still, it is treading on the line between 'cosmetic' and 'game altering' in the C-Store.
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# 12
06-25-2010, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Naevius
It's far from clear that the Galaxy-X is an advantage in PvP or PvE. Still, it is treading on the line between 'cosmetic' and 'game altering' in the C-Store.
Respectfully the Cloaking device is game altering whether PvE or PvP.
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# 13
06-25-2010, 08:28 AM
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Respectfully the Cloaking device is game altering whether PvE or PvP.
I want to have the patience and trust that unfavorable decisions that Cryptic has made in the past were due to business model, driving from above, or general poor choice. However, I just cannot see the logic behind this one. Not only is it a blatant and quick slap to those that earned (through effort or multiple game copies) their ship, but also a blatant break to the balance between Federation and Klingon factions.

Perhaps I'm wrong and the Klingon side will come out with some new toy to take into battle and the reference to "balance" will be improved ships for both sides. However, at this time, I see the word "balance" as, "We hear the federation complain about Klingon cloak and as such will now give it to them so they can have it too." Unless I'm mistaken, the reasoning behind the Klingon cloak ability (Lore aside) was to offset benefits the Federation received and to make a difference between the two factions. If that is not the case, then someone set me straight.

I'm truly lost on this call and think that if Cryptic doesn't get a staff rep brought on board for the Klingons and someone here to address this question, they are just going to open that wound further that is already hemorrhaging players, especially those of us that love the Klingon side. I would say that the ball, at this point, is fully in their court to convince the players to further trust them with our disposable time and money each month. I hope they choose to come forward on that.
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# 14
06-25-2010, 09:39 AM
Well, all I can say is they need to do something about cloaking before they introduce Romulans. Otherwise RvK is a non-starter. So I'm guessing at this point we'll see more cloak-detection abilities.

(Give them to science ships: they need the love.)
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# 15
06-25-2010, 01:17 PM
I can't even fathom how you draw the conclusion that they'll give every Fed ship cloaking. There's nothing that suggests that beyond (paraphrase) [The game will be balanced for those who don't have the Galaxy X]

Balance automatically means cloak for everyone? I don't get it.
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# 16
06-25-2010, 02:53 PM
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As i warned about a month ago it appears Cryptic will be offering the Federation Galaxy X Cloaked Ship in the C-Store soon.
And.........
They will be introducing Federation Cloaking to non C-Store ships to in STO.
Every Starfleet player will have the opportunity to cloak.......

The proof: http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho....php?p=2784082
WHAT!!!! Waht kind of bull is this!??!?!?
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# 17
06-25-2010, 11:59 PM
I did not assume that Feds get cloak from that yellow statement...

But really, so what if they give every Fed ship cloaking? The Romulans will have cloaking when they are released as the 3rd faction. Might as well give it to the Feds too so everyone is "balanced".

Course the Klingon ships (asside from the unique BOP with Battle Cloak and universal BO slots) should get shield and hull upgrades to put them on par with their Fed counterparts. Then everything will be nice and "balanced" and only the true skill of a player or team will matter.

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# 18
06-26-2010, 04:46 AM
Or we could just take make everything the same and take away all but one faction. Can't get more balanced than that.
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# 19
06-26-2010, 05:19 AM
Give us a Sovereing class cruiser with his real combat capacities and keep up the "galaxy" X, in the trash. Put a "maximun" for the "weapons level" that a vessel can carry. The sovereing uses class XII phasers... Galaxies and intrepid clases use level X and nearly same fire capacities. Galaxy class isn't a combat full oriented class. But for "science" and explotarions missions are far supperiors, May be more that give us ships with "cloak devices", we need a acurated ships class.

Or may be we can mantain the "equilibrium" on the game, and we must forgide the cloak. If we want cloaks, we can use klingons or better romulans.

""I"" "also" wish a "borg aasault team" a borg shield neutralicer and a cutting beam... but maybe I can be assimilated by borg to use that things.

Any races had a strong points and flaw points, please, do no touch that. Ronddenberry was thinkin on a mankind as a honor and valiant space race, no as a cowards with cloak (the great "irony" about klingons warriors that use steal as romulans without "honor".

The mankind is in that time a great "union" of good things. Always going face to face.


A salute for all
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# 20
06-26-2010, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Asakara
I did not assume that Feds get cloak from that yellow statement...

But really, so what if they give every Fed ship cloaking? The Romulans will have cloaking when they are released as the 3rd faction. Might as well give it to the Feds too so everyone is "balanced".

Course the Klingon ships (asside from the unique BOP with Battle Cloak and universal BO slots) should get shield and hull upgrades to put them on par with their Fed counterparts. Then everything will be nice and "balanced" and only the true skill of a player or team will matter.

Then it wouldn't be Star Trek, and it wouldn't be a game with asymmetric balance. Instead it would be just another MMO with complete symmetry on all sides with the only difference being how they look. (That's because it would only be the first step, next they would want the T5 defiant to have battle cloak and universal stations and with enough whining they'd get it, then carriers, and so on)

Would you want to play that game? I wouldn't that's for sure, if the devs can't respect canon enough to keep cloaking out of the hands of the Federation, then there is no telling how far they'll go in disrespecting canon...
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