Lt. Commander
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# 1 Nvidia 470gtx question
07-31-2010, 04:17 AM
If anyone is using one of these, or two in SLI mode, what drivers seem to work best with STO?

I'm getting crashing on my computer that uses two of them, but no crashing on my older 26o gtx system. So I suspect drivers.

Anyone had good results with any particular set of drivers for the 470s?
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# 2
07-31-2010, 05:22 PM
I have a Galaxy gtx 470, nvidias 256.xx drivers were giving me ALOT of flickering in sector space and DSE's. I switched back to the earliest 197 drivers, i think the first one that supported the gtx 470, and most if not all of the flickering has stopped. One thing i didn't try is the default galaxy drivers that came on the install disk (i never use those), I may give them a go for the heck of it.
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# 3
08-01-2010, 10:00 AM
These are three of the "notes" I got from checking the reliability thing with Windows 7.

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000019, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff88002f63180, 0x0000000000000002). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: .


The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000007f (0x0000000000000008, 0x0000000080050031, 0x00000000000006f8, 0xfffff800034e89ac). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 073110-18938-01.


The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000019, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff88002f63180, 0x0000000000000002). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: .

Any ideas?
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# 4
08-01-2010, 10:30 AM
I'm running a gtx 480 with no issues on win7 64bit using the 258.96 drivers.
But both the 470 and 480 run extremely hot and use loads of power.

1. Download EVGA Precision and force the an speed to 100%

2. Make sure your power supply is a good brand and can meet the requirements.

3 Get the latest drivers from the nvidia site.
After uninstalling the old drivers reboot and use driver cleaner. Then reboot again and install the new drivers.

If you're still having issues check the windows error logs.
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# 5
08-01-2010, 11:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vizmu View Post
I'm running a gtx 480 with no issues on win7 64bit using the 258.96 drivers.
But both the 470 and 480 run extremely hot and use loads of power.

1. Download EVGA Precision and force the an speed to 100%

2. Make sure your power supply is a good brand and can meet the requirements.

3 Get the latest drivers from the nvidia site.
After uninstalling the old drivers reboot and use driver cleaner. Then reboot again and install the new drivers.

If you're still having issues check the windows error logs.

They're the liquid cooled 470s, so I'm not sure how to force the fan speed on them. I'll have to check. The CPU temp is 47C, though, and it is cooled through the same liquid system. I wonder if that could be the problem?
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# 6
08-02-2010, 01:56 AM
Oh nice. Yea I WC mine as well. I ran it with the stock cooler for 3 days. It hit 92c at 100% fan speed lol. With the wcing setup it never breaks 56c. That EVGA Precision program can also show gpu temps. Although I use a program called real temp.

What are you running for a psu? My 480 uses about 450W when fully loaded.
The 470's use between 350W and 375W per card. Depending on what else you're running a fairly massive psu would be required to keep the rig stable.

If you're running a good brand/high watt psu then try disabling SLI. See if that helps. I don't think you'll need it for sto.
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# 7
08-02-2010, 05:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincit View Post
These are three of the "notes" I got from checking the reliability thing with Windows 7.

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000019, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff88002f63180, 0x0000000000000002). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: .

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000007f (0x0000000000000008, 0x0000000080050031, 0x00000000000006f8, 0xfffff800034e89ac). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 073110-18938-01.

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000019, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff88002f63180, 0x0000000000000002). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: .

Any ideas?
Just to resolve these STOP codes into more human readable context:

0x7f: UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP
Indicates a general possible hardware fault
MS Info Link : Click

In your case it's a double fault exception:
Double fault
A double fault occurs when an exception occurs while trying to call the handler for a prior exception. Normally, the two exceptions can be handled serially, however there are several exceptions that cannot be handled serially and in this situation the processor signals a double fault. The two primary causes for this are hardware and kernel stack overflows. Hardware problems are usually related to CPU, RAM, or bus. Kernel stack overflows are almost always caused by faulty kernel-mode drivers.


0x101: CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
Indicates possible problem with one of the CPU cores in a multicore environment
General MS info on this: Click

From this I suspect that you might have quite serious problem in your system somewhere.
This does not necessarily mean that your hardware is faulty. It can also be caused by missing/outdated or corrupted drivers.

In general you should make sure you use the latest drivers for all your components where possible. If your mainboard manufacturer provides Win7 drivers is is advisable to use these instead of running the Windows standard drivers. In some rare cases it might help to use previous versions of video drivers, but only if the most recent ones are known to cause problems. If they cause problem for one person they might still work fine for you. Sometimes it's just a combination of things that make hardware go funny.
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# 8
08-03-2010, 06:24 AM
After almost four hours of tech support via phone, the person determined it was either the CPU, the RAM or the power supply. all of which were replaced by them when it was returned for having the exact problem it has now. Darn thing has been in my home less than 12 days since I ordered it in May.

And now it is going back again.

$2600 for maybe 20 hours total play time. Oh well.
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