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Lt. Commander
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# 11
08-04-2010, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Kritze View Post
lol yeah, the silly l2p discussion ... enjoy your time, the nerf mace will be swinged.

Iam out here, sub is canceld to (WHINE WHINE WHINE !!! LoL), Massive "Singleplayer" Online Roleplay Game with unbalanced game content.

Godness, such for a silly pvp community like in WoW -_-

//is beaming out of this thread, baba
lol ok let me try to be constructive, but first i have a few questions:

do you que for pvp alone?
have you tested different builds?
have you read what skills can do?
do you sit at the spawnpoint and wait to be ambushed?
do you team up?
do you heal?
do you use your keyboard?
have you thaught about keybinds?
have you asked for advice?

or did you just come here to cry?
Lt. Commander
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# 12
08-04-2010, 05:45 AM
As eng negh'var captain i have no problem with escorts at all, 1 on 1 it's like i end fight with 75% hp and full shields. eng fleet+polarise hull+brace for impact for fist burst, then just some cycles with shields and heals, 1 vs 2 more hard but still like 8 of 10 times i am alive
p.s. Defiants are making me lol every time, smalls ships, trying so hard
Lt. Commander
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# 13
08-04-2010, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Kritze View Post
Whoa tripple post, you have become a new accolade ^^

No, look at: since season 2 and these silly retrofit ships, there are a lot of science and escorts starships on her way.

@zorena
Science Team again Sub nuc beam? lot seconds later you have it again.

I use ALL (engin team, emerg. to shields 1+2, reverse 2, science team 1, hazard 2, aux to struc 1, revers shield pola, miracle worker, brace impac), iam Engineer and flying an Assault Cruiser, if i have luck i will alive the first BOOM BOOM BÄM Defiant Retro Attack wave with 20-35% hull left (because mostly i will hold there with tractor beam and i can not turn the shield strenght so fast how a escort with all enabled buffs will fire at me).

Yesterday for example, 5 Escorts, they have killed all, we have lose with 1 point, got no chance to heal others or our self.
The escorts are defending with running away (evasive maneuvers) with enabled reverse shield pola.

Yeah, thats fine PvP, i will thank you lol -.-
They didn't triple post, that's three different people with the same avatar about the effed up queue.


Yes, let's nerf some more skills. We all see how wonderfully that's working out for this game so far. Isn't that right Klingons?




















...



*cricket chirp*
Lt. Commander
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# 14
08-04-2010, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Miogaruna View Post
Hax, you can't L2p 4567890, you're missing the 1 and 3!

Though seriously, stop whining. There should be no reason a cruiser should be dying to an escort 1 on 1, if you are, you're just plain doing something wrong. (or that other guy is really really good)
i'm guilty of taking some of these so called cruiser pilots down and usually get a hate tell as soon as they realaize what happened accusing me of hax! Some of these guys need to go back and look at what they did to allow me to pop their hulls so fast. There are some that will give me a run for my money and will leave me as space debris and those guys i will not go against alone.

Defiants are worse than raptors. /sadface
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# 15
08-04-2010, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Miogaruna View Post
Hax, you can't L2p 4567890, you're missing the 1 and 3!

Though seriously, stop whining. There should be no reason a cruiser should be dying to an escort 1 on 1, if you are, you're just plain doing something wrong. (or that other guy is really really good)
I can kill a Cruiser 1vs1 with a BoP.
It'll take about five minutes of constant fire and the need to be completely alone without having to defend against anyone else in combat, plus a the proper build to offset the cruisers self-heals.
It can be done- it just takes forever and is not pratical in pvp all the time when you have multiple opponents.

As for the OP - sounds like you just went against some very experienced players and suffered for it - sh it happens, get over it. and learn to play better.

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Originally Posted by Kritze View Post
lol yeah, the silly l2p discussion ... enjoy your time, the nerf mace will be swinged.
Daddy gonna make it all better for you? Yeah, thats a real adult attitude you have there.....
Of course you will whine like a little ***** since you and every other Fed loving player knows that if you whine long enough the Dev's will bend over backwards for you. Why the **** should you learn to play better when daddy will make it better? Sorry ass players like you who get butt hurt wanting to be Jim Kirk in a starship and the other fanatics like you are ruining a very fun game with you constant cries fro nerf everytime you get your ass handed to you.
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# 16
08-04-2010, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
I can kill a Cruiser 1vs1 with a BoP.[/color]
Lol... that's because you have fought against lousy cruisers, who are running 4 Eng teams and 3x scramble sensors.... In my cruiser, I can take out any (almost) BoP 1on1 in 20 to 25 seconds. (actually 5 to 10, but i added 15 for RSP ) Unless he runs away!

Most people don't have a clue what you really can do in a DPS build cruiser... If anything is OP it's the cruisers...

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So, you feel it's wrong that 5 escorts at their most effective 10 seconds of the match can kill you? That's crazy... any ship that could survive that would be op for sure!!
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# 17
08-04-2010, 06:55 AM
With no shields and a hull at 100%, just popping brace for impact should keep any T5 cruiser alive through everything but the largest crit from a torp.

RSF, AtSIF3, & Polarize Hull is a pretty good alpha defense. Throw in EPtS if you are the focus fire target and pop your HazEm if it's still not enough. Popping an ET before each of these combo's make them even stronger...
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# 18
08-04-2010, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Dassem_Ultor
Lol... that's because you have fought against lousy cruisers, who are running 4 Eng teams and 3x scramble sensors.... In my cruiser, I can take out any (almost) BoP 1on1 in 20 to 25 seconds. (actually 5 to 10, but i added 15 for RSP ) Unless he runs away!

Most people don't have a clue what you really can do in a DPS build cruiser... If anything is OP it's the cruisers...

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So, you feel it's wrong that 5 escorts at their most effective 10 seconds of the match can kill you? That's crazy... any ship that could survive that would be op for sure!!
Well I did say it takes nearly 5 minutes of un-interupted fire and no distractions on my part to accomplish, but it can be done.
Otherwise the best scenerio is 3+ Bops to every cruiser with good load-outs to negate thier self healing as yes - a good cruiser can dish out the sustained dammage and stay alive very easily in pvp.
Many a time I've played against a cruiser only as a stall tactic so help could arrive for the kill.
Only the incompetant captain complains about dying easily in a cruiser.
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# 19 Ship weakness
08-04-2010, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizzou.Tigers View Post
With no shields and a hull at 100%, just popping brace for impact should keep any T5 cruiser alive through everything but the largest crit from a torp.

RSF, AtSIF3, & Polarize Hull is a pretty good alpha defense. Throw in EPtS if you are the focus fire target and pop your HazEm if it's still not enough. Popping an ET before each of these combo's make them even stronger...
Every ship has a weaknees you just need to keep testing and find a combo that works. tachyon beam + high yield. I really think you just need to sit down figure out what you want your ship to do then practice on some PvE and if looks good take it into a war zone for some 1 v 1 Then start messing with with PVP fleet.

These Tank cruisers are a pain though in PVP I run a engion team 1 and emergency power to structual is 6 sec cool down and I out last most people.
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# 20
08-04-2010, 09:29 AM
god, i wish pvp was working. Im having withdrawls after reading all this and remembering the good old days of taking cruisers down in 3 seconds.
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