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# 491
08-17-2010, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AngelSilhouette View Post
I don't remember them saying that in the episode, was that from a novel or comic?
I was pretty sure that was originally on the Prometheus ship description page on the STO website as an explanation as to why these Prommies don't have MVAM here, but it looks like they've made some changes to it. IIRC, it said something about the technology not being reliable enough to make it into production and was limited to only the NX Prometheus.
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# 492
08-17-2010, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Direphoenix View Post
I was pretty sure that was originally on the Prometheus ship description page on the STO website as an explanation as to why these Prommies don't have MVAM here, but it looks like they've made some changes to it. IIRC, it said something about the technology not being reliable enough to make it into production and was limited to only the NX Prometheus.
Hopefully they will retcon that. Heh, just watched Message in a Bottle again to check. :3
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# 493
08-18-2010, 02:22 PM
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7...ifferences.jpg

Tactical Escort Refit, the rightside running lights are green while they should be red, and the ship's name isn't on the right nacelle housing, though the registry number is there. (Not really the best lit image, I know.)
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# 494
08-18-2010, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Reave View Post
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7...ifferences.jpg

Tactical Escort Refit, the rightside running lights are green while they should be red, and the ship's name isn't on the right nacelle housing, though the registry number is there. (Not really the best lit image, I know.)
Its actually the left-side lights that should be red. Port is red. Starboard is green. There's also a texture mismatch on the left nacelle. Its tough to see in your pic, but the section of "colored paneling" closest to the bow, for some reason there's a red texture at the end of the colored section, that isn't there on the opposite side.

EDIT: Cooked up an image to show everything I've noticed, including Reave's discoveries as well.

http://a.imageshack.us/img835/9848/defiantimprov.jpg

Also, I think it was brought up before but I couldn't find the post, any chance of getting the registry on the deflector dish assembly?

http://a.imageshack.us/img16/521/registryy.jpg
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# 495
08-18-2010, 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reave View Post
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7...ifferences.jpg

Tactical Escort Refit, the rightside running lights are green while they should be red, and the ship's name isn't on the right nacelle housing, though the registry number is there. (Not really the best lit image, I know.)
Red is on the right only if the ship / aircraft is approaching you or on your starboard flank / wing. You don't need to know where your nav lights are so much as everyone else's
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# 496
08-18-2010, 08:41 PM
While on the topic of the Defiant-class, would this be a bad time to mention these errors?

The warp engine housing is too tall, if fixed then the bridge superstructure would need to be lowered as well:

http://imgur.com/65iNe.jpg

http://imgur.com/h77y1.jpg

http://imgur.com/mDaIh.jpg

Publicity and series on screen shots:

http://imgur.com/Ky1sU.jpg

http://imgur.com/HkkgJ.jpg

http://imgur.com/ReMD2.jpg

http://imgur.com/qzZLa.jpg

http://imgur.com/H3ctM.jpg
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# 497
08-18-2010, 11:05 PM
I found a nifty ship scale chart out on the web and plopped it into the beginning of the Klingon and Romulan sections and in the Defiant section.

Also added the lack of the Defiant's signature quad cannon in the Tactical Escort section.






Quote:
Originally Posted by Amosov
While on the topic of the Defiant-class, would this be a bad time to mention these errors?

The warp engine housing is too tall, if fixed then the bridge superstructure would need to be lowered as well:

http://imgur.com/65iNe.jpg

http://imgur.com/h77y1.jpg

http://imgur.com/mDaIh.jpg

Publicity and series on screen shots:

http://imgur.com/Ky1sU.jpg

http://imgur.com/HkkgJ.jpg

http://imgur.com/ReMD2.jpg

http://imgur.com/qzZLa.jpg

http://imgur.com/H3ctM.jpg
There is a link to the studio model used for the Defiant on the first page, hopefully that's all that's needed. However, once the good Capn gets back to Starfleet ships I'll put this info on the front page. Hopefully that will be because he will have made the Klingon ships as close to the model shots we've listed as possible and I can clear the list. (Running short on space up there. )
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# 498
08-19-2010, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pliskin View Post
Its actually the left-side lights that should be red. Port is red. Starboard is green. There's also a texture mismatch on the left nacelle. Its tough to see in your pic, but the section of "colored paneling" closest to the bow, for some reason there's a red texture at the end of the colored section, that isn't there on the opposite side.

EDIT: Cooked up an image to show everything I've noticed, including Reave's discoveries as well.

http://a.imageshack.us/img835/9848/defiantimprov.jpg

Also, I think it was brought up before but I couldn't find the post, any chance of getting the registry on the deflector dish assembly?

http://a.imageshack.us/img16/521/registryy.jpg
I have noticed the exact same things... I guess with only 2 model makers things slip past...
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# 499
08-19-2010, 04:07 PM
the Denaube Runabout is at the wrong size. In it's current state, it's about 3 decks tall, and 233m long, equalling a Miranda class in size... It'd be good, when there's time, shrink it down to a more suitable size.

Now, if it isn't the Denaube class, feel free to disregard this post.
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# 500
08-19-2010, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by momiji View Post
the Denaube Runabout is at the wrong size. In it's current state, it's about 3 decks tall, and 233m long, equalling a Miranda class in size... It'd be good, when there's time, shrink it down to a more suitable size.

Now, if it isn't the Denaube class, feel free to disregard this post.
That is intentional on the part of the devs, though the reasoning behind it has more holes in it than swiss cheese.
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