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# 11
08-26-2010, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenrir1536 View Post
So wait are you implying that you canceled your sub over the excelsior refit being a c-store item?
Are you saying that you approve of investing in a company that can't uphold promises to not introduce content into the C-Store that uniquely offers an advantage in game to players with the willingness to buy?
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# 12
08-26-2010, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dorko1 View Post
Are you saying that you approve of investing in a company that can't uphold promises to not introduce content into the C-Store that uniquely offers an advantage in game to players with the willingness to buy?
What is the advantage with the Excelsior in its current form? I thought they nerfed it once already so people didn't feel it had an advantage.
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# 13
08-26-2010, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dorko1 View Post
Are you saying that you approve of investing in a company that can't uphold promises to not introduce content into the C-Store that uniquely offers an advantage in game to players with the willingness to buy?
There is no advantage.
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# 14
08-26-2010, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dorko1 View Post
Are you saying that you approve of investing in a company that can't uphold promises to not introduce content into the C-Store that uniquely offers an advantage in game to players with the willingness to buy?
Actually I believe the wording they used was they would only introduce things into the C-store that had ingame equivalents, and thats what the Excelsior is another Teir 5 ship.

With the few posts that ive seen describing the Excelsior in pvp that is exactly what it is, just another option. Its a squisher cruiser with more emphasis on offense rather then defense. I want to give the new ship a week before its determined its overpowered but so far it seems like its just another tier 5.

So i guess the answer to your question is at best no, since cryptic is not "a company that can't uphold promises to not introduce content into the C-Store that uniquely offers an advantage in game to players with the willingness to buy" at least with the Excelsior.

Honestly if this was your problem with the C-store you would of left long before now since nearly everything in the store has something unique about it that you cant get any other way.
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# 15
08-26-2010, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenrir1536 View Post
So wait are you implying that you canceled your sub over the excelsior refit being a c-store item?
No, I'm STATING that I cancelled my account over the direction the game is now going.

As a non-Cstore using customer I am now, partially, and as the trend continues, will soon be greatly, a second class "free" loader customer for expecting fun content in exchange for my montlhy payment.

(Now this is the part where you tell me the T5 Excelsior isn't neccessary for my enjoyment, where, in fact, new ships and content is completely neccessary for my continued enjoyment. I refuse to pay Cryptic funds above and beyond my monthly fee for things that will keep me interested in playing and paying a monthly fee.)

I've already made purchases to keep my interest alive (more character slots to extend my game play allowance since I levelled up all 3 of my "free" slots very quickly).

In order to justify making new alts to extend my game time I restricted myself to 1 ship per captain. My first Captain is a Star Cruiser pilot. Wodnering how the Assault Cruiser compared I then used one of my purchsed slots to level up an AC captain (instead of just buying one for my SC captain) as a means of creating my own incentive to play.

I'm now on my 6th 1captain / 1ship (have a Star Cruiser, Assault Crusier, Fleet Escort, Advanced Escort, and Deep Space Vessel all piloted by a differnt character).

I now need a new incentive. I could start working out new BOFF crews for additional ships for each Captain . . . like for having my "final" ship and one of the new refits to switch between . . . or just make up new crew members for (what's the word? oh yeah) fun! Might even start filling out my 8 ship slots with variations on already piloted ships. Eventually, gonna need more BOFF slots, and since we don't get any for Ranking up to VA1 I will have to turn to a C-store purchase eventually to find incentive to keep playing.

I now have 6 captains all piloting a differnt version of each of the 6 T5 ships. I could be persuaded to make more character slot purchases if there were new T5 ships introduced at RA1 . . . hey whatta ya know, here's the T5 Excelsior . . . kick the tires and light the fires, only $18 dollars to havea good reason to pay $15 more dolalrs this month.

/game over

btw, there is no text field to voice your opinions when you click the cancel sub button, but there is a BILLING / MICRO-TRANSACTION option under the "Reason for cancelling" drop down menus.
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# 16
08-26-2010, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by artic1337
I'd go from "this is the last straw" to a calm "cmon bring on the new content the C-store was meant to fund".

I wouldn't be a totally happy camper, but my sub wouldn't be cancelled either.
I'ld let mine expire, if all new content was c-store only
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# 17
08-26-2010, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by artic1337
No, I'm STATING that I cancelled my account over the direction the game is now going.

As a non-Cstore using customer I am now, partially, and as the trend continues, will soon be greatly, a second class "free" loader customer for expecting fun content in exchange for my montlhy payment.

(Now this is the part where you tell me the T5 Excelsior isn't neccessary for my enjoyment, where, in fact, new ships and content is completely neccessary for my continued enjoyment. I refuse to pay Cryptic funds above and beyond my monthly fee for things that will keep me interested in playing and paying a monthly fee.)

I've already made purchases to keep my interest alive (more character slots to extend my game play allowance since I levelled up all 3 of my "free" slots very quickly).

In order to justify making new alts to extend my game time I restricted myself to 1 ship per captain. My first Captain is a Star Cruiser pilot. Wodnering how the Assault Cruiser compared I then used one of my purchsed slots to level up an AC captain (instead of just buying one for my SC captain) as a means of creating my own incentive to play.

I'm now on my 6th 1captain / 1ship (have a Star Cruiser, Assault Crusier, Fleet Escort, Advanced Escort, and Deep Space Vessel all piloted by a differnt character).

I now need a new incentive. I could start working out new BOFF crews for additional ships for each Captain . . . like for having my "final" ship and one of the new refits to switch between . . . or just make up new crew members for (what's the word? oh yeah) fun! Might even start filling out my 8 ship slots with variations on already piloted ships. Eventually, gonna need more BOFF slots, and since we don't get any for Ranking up to VA1 I will have to turn to a C-store purchase eventually to find incentive to keep playing.

I now have 6 captains all piloting a differnt version of each of the 6 T5 ships. I could be persuaded to make more character slot purchases if there were new T5 ships introduced at RA1 . . . hey whatta ya know, here's the T5 Excelsior . . . kick the tires and light the fires, only $18 dollars to havea good reason to pay $15 more dolalrs this month.

/game over

btw, there is no text field to voice your opinions when you click the cancel sub button, but there is a BILLING / MICRO-TRANSACTION option under the "Reason for cancelling" drop down menus.
Its just a personal reason then, sorry to see you go.

All i can really say i guess is that I haven't bought the Galaxy X or the Excelsior and I don't feel like a second class citizen. I really don't understand where you are coming from with any of your reasons but we all have our different play styles and I guess the C-store is just incompatible with yours.
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# 18
08-26-2010, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Krenn View Post
I'ld let mine expire, if all new content was c-store only
sorry, what I meant by "content the C-store was meant to fund" was the early justification by all the trekbois that the C-Store was absolutely neccessary because the ch-ching it generated would "fund new content".
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# 19
08-26-2010, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenrir1536 View Post
Its just a personal reason then, sorry to see you go.

All i can really say i guess is that I haven't bought the Galaxy X or the Excelsior and I don't feel like a second class citizen. I really don't understand where you are coming from with any of your reasons but we all have our different play styles and I guess the C-store is just incompatible with yours.

Ya sorry, got way to wordy there. What I'm saying is,in my own personal experience with ST:O, I've had to find reasons to keep playing (nothing new in mmorgs, get bored of one area go to another, try a new class, etc) . . . and all roads lead back to C-Store at the moment and the one thing (new T5 ships at RA1) that would have kept wind in my sails has a price tag higher than my already paid monthly fee.

In other words,

T5 Excel @ $18 . . . "This is BS, give me an in-game option thats fun to get this reward."
T5 Excel @ $5 . . . "Shrug, ok, still would have been cooler as an in-game reward."
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# 20
08-26-2010, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by artic1337
sorry, what I meant by "content the C-store was meant to fund" was the early justification by all the trekbois that the C-Store was absolutely neccessary because the ch-ching it generated would "fund new content".
I don't have a spread sheet to prove what dollars paid for what but didn't we get new content despite what was placed in the C-store? The the vast majority of things placed in the game since launch have been free rather then C-store items, you could make the argument that the C-store at least helped pay for that content.
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