Originally Posted by Cedryk_

i will kill him


again

Originally Posted by faithborn

"Emergency power to the CPU!"

"its not doing anything captain!"

"*viscious profanity aimed at a certain science officer in my fleet*"

let's play 'who lags out first'!

Originally Posted by BobTheYak

By yourself or with three SubNucs?

Originally Posted by faithborn

Should I remind the audience of the time that Lore subnuked Era 4 times in the course of a minute and STILL failed to kill him that match? fun times :p

Originally Posted by SteveHale

I don't think most people are complaining about Fed's maybe getting a carrier because it's this amazing thing you think it is. Rather, how many more ships with special abilities have been given to the Feds since Klinks were last promised more ships of their own? Klinks received one single ship in that time while the Fed armada continues to grow. Both sides should have distinguishing features, that's what makes it fun to try different things.

I flew Fed side last night with a group of folks, of which at least two others were Klink mains, and we cleaned up. I could take the time to upload some screen shots and post the links but truthfully I don't think it would make any difference. Let's say for ***** and giggles I had a couple that showed Klinks being stomped by a handful of Feds. How would you dismiss them or use them to further bolster your misguided position?

Originally Posted by Pell

Look guys when i titled this thread unbalanced i dint mean overpowered the fire power of a the kling ships is not an issue, the issue is now (not prepatch) the carrrier being able to spawn endless fast firing npcs and the BOP. The BOP can be what ever you want it to be, the way i use it is as a sci ship! but unlike any fed sci ship i fly i can put out mass amount of damage and all the sci buffs on an enmy ship and virtually destroy them in seconds, i have had this done to me as a fed many times by BOPs very rarely by a defiant! in fed v fed and if when i am in a bop the battle goes bad, easy hit evasive and engine get out cloak at same time and a few seconds i come back undetected and kill the target because they would of engaged another target, i cant chase them because they have cloaked! the defiant can be hunted before they reach a safe distance to enable them time to cloak, and given that now carrier npcs chase you they probably cant even do that!
So you got 2 klingon ships that have a pretty huge advatage not in fire power but in the ships capabilities, yer the feds have had new ships all very nice cosmetically some have 1 or 2 nice little features but please dont insult my intelligence and tell me a BOP is not the best ship in the game closely followed by the re-vamped carrier. If they gave the defiant at least a battle cloak the bop would still have the slight advatage with its universal slots. And i will make a point about the carrier, why all of a sudden klings teams have at least 2, i have even seen 3/4 in some teams, prior to thier revamp you saw the odd one and please dont tell me thats not true since i flew mostly klingon upto about 1 month ago

Any way that the last i have to say about this subject i will use my kling character to keep getting their emblems, but for now i will predominantly fly fed because its actaully more of a challenge to win.! I welcome every ones input and there are some good points made against my argument.

Originally Posted by RelativeWork

I dunno - I've seen most of the posters around for a while (even though this game is less than a year old) so I assume most of you have been playing since the beta days, the pre-release, season 1, 2 etc and this topic just keeps coming up over and over again - is there really an issue? Remember the scatter volley "bug", the cries of foul on stacked RSP, the ramping up of Fed Cruisers in 2.0 (ask TSI what they think of Fed Cruisers these days ) the list goes on and on and every time for Klinks it felt like they were getting constantly nerfed, the feds were getting everything they asked for or complained about yet these threads of how OP Klinks are persist - will the majority of the community (which is obviously fed) not be happy until even the most useless PUG can exterminate Klink's at will every time?

I remember when 2.0 came out and we Klinks just could not win a PvP (remember the final 1.1 PvP tourney - the final was a fed v fed) , but we adapted to the new regime, practiced, tweaked some skills and got better. Personally, I think things are fairly balanced and if anything tilted towards Feds because of the choices they have but we underdogs, underserved, with barely if any a refit available (I remember the Dev posts that said September for refits) will just keep on plodding, keep on taking it on the chin and adapt !

Can we just drop the topic - move on and play the game please.

With a bit of tounge-n-cheek, I had to drag out the classic yet somehow relevant (again) youtube post from good ol Deep Impact:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOSrOTphD9M

Originally Posted by Minion

I have only been playing since the last week in in September... Bobtheyak said this game is so easy, and it is... in less then 45 days i have managed to compete against the best with the best and LOL my way through pugs thinking wtf is really going on on the other side... the answer simply is player experience... i lvl'ed pvping and therefore i am a better player and teammate for it. It also didnt hurt that my fleet took me in at an early age and taught me the ropes.