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# 11
11-15-2010, 08:19 AM
No no you've got it all wrong.... we feds dont want a carrier.....


....we want a carrier bag, to put all the broken bits of pvp in.
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# 12
11-15-2010, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
Why do Startrek fans hate Startrek?
Star Trek fans do not hate star trek.
They hate not being the center of the story, the hero infact and all the plot armor that comes with it. They can not seem to get past the concept that in a MMO everybody is playing, not just fans of the federation.

Such is my opinion that some fans have held on too tightly to thier lives in Star Trek as a genre of scifi and (thanks to its carthidic role in their lives) can not get past the belief that they are the center of the ST universe. In a MMO such is not the case and one must share with other fans on the genre who may disagree and that in a MMO one faction need not hog all the attention. When such no longer is the case (as is here with the KDF getting some love) it may seem unbalancing.
In relations to the KDF, we have finally gotten some attention and it seems this is being used by some to cry fould where no foul has been played. The KDF have had some improvements made and some changes put into place that some feds feel is too much and rather than adjust to the change in circumstances or offer good resaonable fixes, they find it easier to complain and cry OP.
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# 13 persistant
11-15-2010, 08:44 AM
hmmm, why. i dont see any point in it. This is coming from a Fed only player. we need better tech not another ship to play alone in.

try this on for size

point defense systems
nanite torpedoes
inversion beams from the nebula using the tachyon beam
ability to alter photonic shock wave
statis bubble
biometric organic hulls: this should be added with the ablative armour program.

what the federation needs is new ideas. not to copy after the klingons. SO drum up some new ways to combat fighter squadrons. drum up something innovative fellow fed captains. think out of the box and stop being an instant gratification brat wanting a one track mind solution to combat something simple as a klingon carrier. The above items would nute all the klingon carreirs easily. I will be pushing for these new counter arguments rather then another ship to do only 1 function.
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# 14
11-15-2010, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by UFP-Magnis View Post
hmmm, why. i dont see any point in it. This is coming from a Fed only player. we need better tech not another ship to play alone in.

try this on for size

point defense systems
nanite torpedoes
inversion beams from the nebula using the tachyon beam
ability to alter photonic shock wave
statis bubble
biometric organic hulls: this should be added with the ablative armour program.

what the federation needs is new ideas. not to copy after the klingons. SO drum up some new ways to combat fighter squadrons. drum up something innovative fellow fed captains. think out of the box and stop being an instant gratification brat wanting a one track mind solution to combat something simple as a klingon carrier. The above items would nute all the klingon carreirs easily. I will be pushing for these new counter arguments rather then another ship to do only 1 function.
I agree, its time for that amazing human adaptibility to come into play.
Biometric Oraganic hulls? Where did the feds get a chance to learn about his type of technology?
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# 15
11-15-2010, 11:55 AM
Adding to the NOs in this case.

Let the Klingons have carriers, and leave it at that. They (as a faction) need something to make them special and different. Giving the Feds carriers is far too much homogenization for my tastes.
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# 16
11-15-2010, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptMattSchwab
Adding to the NOs in this case.

Let the Klingons have carriers, and leave it at that. They (as a faction) need something to make them special and different. Giving the Feds carriers is far too much homogenization for my tastes.
I favor the Akira refit carrier because it's the best of both worlds: a carrier/escort that is fragile enough to demand heals and remain a viable target for klinks in PvP.
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# 17
11-15-2010, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
Why do Startrek fans hate Startrek?
I keep asking myself the same question.
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# 18
11-15-2010, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptMattSchwab
Adding to the NOs in this case.

Let the Klingons have carriers, and leave it at that. They (as a faction) need something to make them special and different. Giving the Feds carriers is far too much homogenization for my tastes.
The question is why klingons were given carriers to make them special in the first place. I don't remember any instances of carrier actions by the klingons, yet the akira was designed for that role (even if we never saw it actually do it because that would draw too much attention away from ~~the enterprise~~ )
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# 19
11-15-2010, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SP3CTREnyc
I favor the Akira refit carrier because it's the best of both worlds: a carrier/escort that is fragile enough to demand heals and remain a viable target for klinks in PvP.
Well like I said a few times, why not make the Akira refit a cross between a small carrier (one hangar bay) and give it cannons? I wouldn't mind as an avid KDF player at all. But a full blown carrier like the KDF has for the Feds? Don't see why they'd even need one.
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# 20
11-15-2010, 02:38 PM
Adding to the "NO"s.

Let's not get into making factions generic and going for a "ping pong" approach with one side has it so the other side must also or it's not balanced and etc.

Both factions must have some cool unique thing to make them worth playing.

The cloak was an alright move because it stayed within canon and not every fed ship got it, but getting a fed carrier just because the klingons have one would hurt the klingon faction and it would do nothing imo for the game other than make the two factions nothing more than almost exact copies of each other which would not be any fun either.

Giving a faction everything the other has would take away any reason to even make another faction.
If one has it all and could do it all then what would be the incentive to make any other playable faction or even play it?

Keep in mind, while it may be a carrier today, what would it be when the Romulans arrive and so forth?
We need to make some allowences for other factions to have things the others do not.

Let them keep the carrier, surely we could answer back with something else that is just as equally "cool" without killing a nice part of the klingon faction with it.
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