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# 11
11-15-2010, 12:50 PM
Sigh, making adjustments to normal gameplay purely from a PvP perspective is a terrible thing to do in STO. PvP is a miniscule part of the game; an afterthought. Cruisers are fine.
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# 12
11-15-2010, 12:50 PM
Cruisers are almost fine in 1v1 or battles without too much healing. They're ridiculous when you get multiple cruisers together focus healing.
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# 13
11-15-2010, 12:52 PM
Still. PvP is not STOs focus nor should it be. Therefore, the game isn't really balanced around the playstyle.
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# 14
11-15-2010, 12:53 PM
See, this is where I remember why most of the people here are face palm worthy. The assumption that you can't balance for both is a stupid assumption to make. Some games do it fine. While you can't get it perfect you can get it a heck of a lot better than it is now.
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# 15
11-15-2010, 12:54 PM
Cruisers are fine. L2P the other classes properly
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# 16
11-15-2010, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by USS Parallax
Couldn't care less? That phrase does not state how much you care. Maybe you care a LOT. Maybe it's the most important issue on your mind and you couldn't possibly care less about it because it's THAT important to you.

Yes, I think this is how things are. I thank you for your support.
I've seen a person lose credibility in their argument in many ways on here, however kudos to you for doing it in one of the silliest ways yet.

Since you've decided to switch the discussion from cruisers to the meaning of commonly used phrases, I can only assume you have since decided your initial argument was unfounded and now agree that cruisers are just fine as they are.

Thank you for illustrating why your comments should not be taken seriously.
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# 17
11-15-2010, 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by USS Parallax
See, this is where I remember why most of the people here are face palm worthy. The assumption that you can't balance for both is a stupid assumption to make. Some games do it fine. While you can't get it perfect you can get it a heck of a lot better than it is now.
You're not going to garner much for your cause if you are going to insult anyone who disagrees with you. While simultaneous balance of both styles is "possible", it requires planning to execute properly. Obviously, this isn't high on the Devs agenda but if you could see past your nose you would have realized that. Maybe you should go back to EvE or whatever game you came from.
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# 18
11-15-2010, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by vincire View Post
Still. PvP is not STOs focus nor should it be. Therefore, the game isn't really balanced around the playstyle.
But isn't Startrek Online a Massive Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game?

Do you really think it's fair that in a fleet action or when teaming up for a Cluster exploration or a new daily episode or in an STF is it right that those using Cruisers are best off, simply because they can't be killed by the enemy anyway and rake in decent damage?

Or do you just not care because you don't team up anyway or play at so low difficulties that it doesn't matter anyway what you fly? But then why worry about balance changes all that much? Do you fear that at some point, you might actually be challenged in space combat?

Balanced ships are in everyone's interest.
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# 19
11-15-2010, 01:04 PM
The fact is I've got people who don't PvP as the main people against this. I'm talking PvP. PvP some, specifically with a team with escorts and science ships against a team with tons of cruisers who focus heal. Or be the cruiser team. You can't lose when you're a team with lots of cruisers who focus heal unless the other team does it too.
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# 20
11-15-2010, 01:05 PM
Go cry nerf all you want, i hope no one lisnt to you.
¿Esocrt are B on offensive? Yes, sure.. you are doing something wrong then. If you want to kill a tank, then use a Scien ship.
Tank kill DPS
DPS kill Scien
Scien kill Tank
You want to be able to kill tank and Scien rigth? You want to be god!
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