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Was anyone else really annoyed to read in "Ask Cryptic" that the up coming contest "Design the Enterprise F" will probably only be open to the U.S.?

Not saying that I don't expect some great designs from across the pond but what about the Star Trek fans OUTSIDE the U.S.?!
I've been drawing up rough designs since I read about the contest (waiting to see exactly what format Cryptic wants it submitted in) wasted time now. That aside I've seen quite a few epic designs from the people in the UK, German, Italy etc which will never see the light of day due to something as stupid as Tax.

While a new Laptop would be nice I for one would be gladly give it up if there was a remote chance that I could design the Enterprise F... Especially if it (somehow) became canon at some point.

I'm sure there are a few others that would forgo the prizes just to have their name attached to an official Enterprise/ship design.
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# 2
12-02-2010, 05:07 PM
Yes, I totally agree it's unfortunate and downright silly to not allow ANY features available in the US abroad, much less just designing a ship (for the record, I'm American). Corporate laws don't want to concede, which is to be expected, but when it affects the content of a major international release that's quite unacceptable. This game is sold in other countries; it should therefore be sold with all components intact, no if's, and's or but's. You are justified in your concern.
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# 3
12-02-2010, 05:17 PM
First, keep in mind that the Ent F isn't Cryptic's contest. Cryptic is just going along with the contest and agreeing to add the winner to the game as the Ent F. Second, contests like this are considered pyramid schemes in some countries and subject to criminal actions against those who hold them.
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# 4
12-02-2010, 05:41 PM
yeah, it's totally unfortunate for those outside the U.S, but trying to get the contest through the intensely thick cobwebs of international law would be way more than Cryptic could afford/handle, so sadly there's nothing they can do about it
and for those who are saying 'screw the rules' despite what Cryptic has said, would you rather STO's develepment come to a halt for years while they sort through the mess? yes it would be an honor to have your name next to the newest Enterprise, but I don't think even that is worth it
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# 5
12-03-2010, 04:44 AM
Not really as I knew that it wouldn't be a game playable outside of the USA due to legalease and other international trade restrictions. What can one do? Demand Cryptic change the laws? Hardly a realistic approach.
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# 6
12-03-2010, 04:53 AM
Yeah, it's really unfortunate and totally Cryptic's fault that they have neither the legal staff nor the resources to research the laws of all 200+ countries on this planet and then pay the correct fees/taxes/bribes necessary to run this contest (that they're not even running) in every single country in the world.

Oh and by the way, there has already been at least one dev post that explained this. So by all means, let's start a couple hundred more threads about this same subject and blame Cryptic once again for something they have no control over.
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# 7
12-03-2010, 04:54 AM
They could always offer the prizes to charity to enable it to be done outside of the US.
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# 8
12-03-2010, 04:56 AM
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Yeah, it's really unfortunate and totally Cryptic's fault that they have neither the legal staff nor the resources to research the laws of all 200+ countries on this planet and then pay the correct fees/taxes/bribes necessary to run this contest (that they're not even running) in every single country in the world.

Oh and by the way, there has already been at least one dev post that explained this. So by all means, let's start a couple hundred more threads about this same subject and blame Cryptic once again for something they have no control over.
Sounds like a plan!

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Originally Posted by MGDawson View Post
They could always offer the prizes to charity to enable it to be done outside of the US.
Making you and a few else happy, and others complaining that they don't get a reward for their work.
Kinda like people asking for rewards for Foundry authors for their work.

And it might still not be legal in every country.
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# 9
12-06-2010, 05:28 AM
I don't mind letting the US have the Ent-F contest; but it would be kinda cool if this were followed up with more generic 'design a starship' contests for other parts of the world.
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# 10
12-06-2010, 07:16 AM
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I don't mind letting the US have the Ent-F contest; but it would be kinda cool if this were followed up with more generic 'design a starship' contests for other parts of the world.
Unlikely since these would still be affected by the very same laws as the Enterprise F contest.
Which means I will never be able to design a ship for this game.
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