Lt. Commander
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I have two questions concerning conversations with NPC's. I understand the Foundry is new and that many intended features are not yet available.

Is there currently a way to have an extended dialogue with an NPC, where you are given a list of questions you can ask the NPC along with a list of answers?

Also, is there currently a way to create a 'multiple choice' response list for an NPC's question and be able to determine the NPC's response depending on the answer? I can see something like that being useful in a First Contact mission or perhaps in a mission where you have to rescue someone who crashed on a planet with a pre-warp civilization and there is no way to avoid encountering the locals. This is something I don't know if the Dev's intend for the Foundry, so if they don't, consider it a suggestion please?

Thanks!
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# 2
12-16-2010, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Rosvik
I have two questions concerning conversations with NPC's. I understand the Foundry is new and that many intended features are not yet available.

Is there currently a way to have an extended dialogue with an NPC, where you are given a list of questions you can ask the NPC along with a list of answers?
in a word- no

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Originally Posted by Rosvik
Also, is there currently a way to create a 'multiple choice' response list for an NPC's question and be able to determine the NPC's response depending on the answer? I can see something like that being useful in a First Contact mission or perhaps in a mission where you have to rescue someone who crashed on a planet with a pre-warp civilization and there is no way to avoid encountering the locals. This is something I don't know if the Dev's intend for the Foundry, so if they don't, consider it a suggestion please?

Thanks!
once again- that feature is presently unavailable, however it is on their to do list iirc
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# 3 Decisions
01-14-2011, 11:45 AM
It´s quite a relating question:
Is there (or actually will be) there an option for choices/decisions?

e.g. A ship has been attacked. In the debre, klingon weapon signatures are detected. Later on you hail a klingon bird of prey and have 2 options:
a) "You are responsable we have prove!"
- in reality orion pirats have stolen klingon weapons. by blaming the klingons prematurely you fail th mission
b) "We believe in your word that you are not responsable for the attack"
- which continues the mission

I assume its not possible yet. But the question is, is it on the agenda. Or if not: Woudn´t it be cool?
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# 4
01-15-2011, 02:02 AM
Its a bit tricky ... you can place various "vulcanic flowers" under the npc and interact with them...

Have do it on my german story line created with the foundry.

I use 1 Konsole but can absolve 3 Tasks - Normally its only possible, to absolve 1 tast on 1 konsole.

So i have added 2 more flower with the last 2 needed options. i have placed it by -6 so you will not see the flower but access is possible.
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# 5
01-15-2011, 05:45 AM
tell me more about it.

Once you have multiple interactions what can you do with it?

Multiple text answers or more?

Is there anywhere a button/option to fail the mission if you do x wrong?
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# 6
01-15-2011, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim_Sheridan
tell me more about it.

Once you have multiple interactions what can you do with it?

Multiple text answers or more?

Is there anywhere a button/option to fail the mission if you do x wrong?
Last question: No. First questions: Please see this tutorial. There is a lot that you can do with multiple interactions with NPCs using hidden objects that create differing paths. It isn't branching dialogue or a fail option, but it might be what you're looking for.

Basically, I show you how to approach an NPC, make a choice about "Ask about X," "Ask about Y," and "Ask about Z." Each choice unfolds a separate series of popups, object interactions, etc.

I hope that it helps: http://starbaseugc.com/index.php/sto...ues-the-cheat/
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# 7
01-15-2011, 09:01 AM
Yes it helps!

It gives some nice options for multiple answers and some non-linear way of dealing with the story.

I´ve also seen tutorials of the foundry in youtube. In fact that was the final reason why i joined Star Trek online.

You got a lot more tutorials on youtube i am gonna view them.

Still i am sad that there is no "choice-and-consequence" option in the foundry (yet?)

I suppose writting "you have failed the mission, please exit" is the next thing to do that kind of storytelling.
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# 8
01-15-2011, 05:43 PM
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Yes it helps! It gives some nice options for multiple answers and some non-linear way of dealing with the story.
I'm glad you've found some help with this tutorial, however, the non-linearity of the dialog is only an illusion because eventually to proceed with the objectives and thus resolve the mission, the player must go through every dialog option. That's all we have for now.

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Still i am sad that there is no "choice-and-consequence" option in the foundry (yet?)
Cryptic is just now starting to toy with the possibilities so it's on the Foundry road map, but we'll have to wait a long time, in my opinion.

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I suppose writing "you have failed the mission, please exit" is the next thing to do that kind of storytelling.
I really advise against that kind of dialog, story-writing or even thinking. MMO's aren't built with failure in mind, and that's how players want it actually. Don't let all the talk about challenge convince you otherwise.
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# 9
01-16-2011, 05:54 AM
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[COLOR="Wheat", the non-linearity of the dialog is only an illusion

Cryptic is just now starting to toy with the possibilities so it's on the Foundry road map, but we'll have to wait a long time, in my opinion.

I really advise against that kind of dialog, story-writing or even thinking. MMO's aren't built with failure in mind, .[/color]
Yeah, i just realized the non-linearity after putting together a mission. Still at least the player has some options to choice in a certan order.

Glad to hear Cryptic is advancing the foundry. I waited a year to join, i can wait longer if there is something good coming.

Well, a choice-and-failure type of story telling might not be the typical stuff for MMO´s. Still i am a fan of the old Star Trek adventures and love that style. Options and commanddecisions, like a captain! I assume there might be folks out there loving my stories. If the majority doesn´t, well, everyone has his own style.
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# 10
01-16-2011, 06:37 AM
Well, if you like the old ST RPGs then you ought to try the Demon Encounter mission. That is my best attempt so far to port the classical gameplay to STO. It has a basic form of multi choice communication. It has no effect on the actual mission, but you can collect various info using that.

The latest engineering report indicated that adding mission triggers and branching dialogs to Foundry is high priority and should come in Q1. Maybe even with the big update in february, if I read correctly.
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